Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #65

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TLDR version: Sandie Peggie vs Royal College of Nursing is currently being heard. The hearing started on Wednesday 23 September 2026 and is scheduled to end on Thursday 1 October 2026.

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims were of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claimed to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and after a prolonged process judgment was handed down on 8 December 2025. That judgment is being appealed and an appeal hearing is expected to take place in 2027.

Additional legal claims have been raised. Sandie Peggie is taking action against the Royal College of Nursing, against three senior managers who were witnesses in the employment tribunal - Dr Kate Searle, Dr Maggie Currer and Esther Davidson, against Carol Potter, the chief executive of NHS Fife, for victimisation, against NHS Fife for discrimination, and against its director of people and culture David Miller for harassment. In addition, Sandie Peggie is being investigated by the Nursing and Midwifery Council over fitness to practice.

The past proceedings were live tweeted by www.x.com/tribunaltweets. Tribunal Tweets are likely to be providing coverage in current and future proceedings. There's additional information on Tribunal Tweets' substack: www.tribunaltweets.substack.com/.

Links to previous threads #1 to #60 can be found in this thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 61: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5472628-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-61 8 January 2026 to 3 August 2026

Thread 62: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5562302-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-62 3 August 2026 to 24 September 2026

Thread 63: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5581909-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-63 24 September 2026 to 27 September 2026

Thread 64: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5583133-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-64 27 September 2026 to 29 September 2026

From TT:

re overall strategy of org. Have team of regional directors who manage teams within the English regions,
DH Re England and RCN - broken into 9 regions
PM Yes. Two directors run two regions
Report to gen sec [missed name]
DH From a nursing background
PM trained as nurse 1980s

PM Worked as reg nurse
DH Therefore you sit at a fairly high level in RCN. Fair?
PM Yes
DH And some will involve you having sight re strategic leadership as part of senior team.
PM Yes
DH Evidence in case. Give as to whether RCN has corporate views, including

No position? Really?!

The beclowning is going to be strong with this one, I feel...

Bloody brilliant. I love flapjacks.

Something worries me, though. Half a tin of condensed milk? What is one supposed to do with the other half?

Condensed milk buttie.

Make more flapjacks?

From TT:

re public debate bio sex/gi
PM Yes am aware of that dichotomy
DH If RC had position on debate would you be expected to know about it
PM Absolutely I would
DH As far as you are aware, any position of RCN on concept of GI/bio sex debate
PM We have no position

DH Has it had a position on concepts
PM No
DHFrom time to time RC will take policy positions
PM Yes
DH What sort of matters
P:M Health social care coniditions, pay, things members want us to take position on
DH How do members drive RCN c taking positions

It wasn't me, I am very much finished with cycling, after having five years of serious heart problems (hopefully alleviated with the pacemaker being fitted) and reactive arthritis in the elbows and knees. When I was in a club and racing, there were a lot of very kind people who wouldn't think twice about helping others.

Literally shouting at my computer now.

Inclusive! x2!

Inclusive, again...

You are not on your own.

Reminder not to comment on proceedings ahead of TT.

[slinking away because I know better]

From TT:

PM Members can submit resolutions to annual conference, regular feedback from members on issues that concern them in workplace, eg pay, lack of staff, lack of standing for registered nurses
DH From time to time may be - will rephrase - has been evidence in this case

where RCN material, progress pride flag. Know what this is
PM Yes
DH Intention of RCN inc pp flag in material/flying
PM Seek to be incl of all members of org. Use of flag to demonstrate that inclusiviity
DH What about excluding individuals through flag

I was making a list of who to send to as I caught up on the thread,
UpstartRedstart tribunal work
Lougle DD hosp
fanOfBen accident
Igneococcus migraine
but I see I've been replaced by individual Care Gerbils 'Carebils' being sent out to take care of each of you, which they are much better at doing than me, and infinitely cuter😃
But good wishes to all from me as well as the Carebils

It is interesting for all the talk of inclusivity, what's meant is prioritising the genderism flavour of LGBTQ+ and not being that bothered about anything else.

Are random, no context 'fuck offs!' ok?

Unavoidable I think!

Mandatory

DH What about excluding individuals through flag

That has literally never dawned on them, what with being so inclusive and all.

It's precisely tge reason I don't allow Pride flags or merch to be on show my NHS service.

argh …..suffering from FOMO right now as I have no sound.

From TT:

display
DH Any intention of RCN to exclude individuals
PM Absolutely not
DH [to docs] Article by Sally Wilson. Do you know
PM Don't work with but know who she is
DH Article/ piece is on RCN website. What are we looking at. Why does RCN put blogs up on website
PM This is blog

by Sally, put in in pride week. We use blogs by members. Sally written on personal level.
DH article 30 July 2025
PM Yes
DH [to docs] Article to p 1114, header at top is RCN. What is the magazine
PM RCN mag is a way of us getting different message and stories out

I struggle with the fact that staff, who at her level are on a decent wage, fail to see how excluding their inclusivity is.

These aren't stupid people (although some do a good impersonation of one).

It is slow enough to be captured comprehensively in the summaries, I would take a chance on logging in and out/ trying other devices to be ready for Naomi!