Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #65

1000 replies

nauticant · 29/09/2026 10:25

TLDR version: Sandie Peggie vs Royal College of Nursing is currently being heard. The hearing started on Wednesday 23 September 2026 and is scheduled to end on Thursday 1 October 2026.

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims were of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claimed to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and after a prolonged process judgment was handed down on 8 December 2025. That judgment is being appealed and an appeal hearing is expected to take place in 2027.

Additional legal claims have been raised. Sandie Peggie is taking action against the Royal College of Nursing, against three senior managers who were witnesses in the employment tribunal - Dr Kate Searle, Dr Maggie Currer and Esther Davidson, against Carol Potter, the chief executive of NHS Fife, for victimisation, against NHS Fife for discrimination, and against its director of people and culture David Miller for harassment. In addition, Sandie Peggie is being investigated by the Nursing and Midwifery Council over fitness to practice.

The past proceedings were live tweeted by www.x.com/tribunaltweets. Tribunal Tweets are likely to be providing coverage in current and future proceedings. There's additional information on Tribunal Tweets' substack: www.tribunaltweets.substack.com/.

Links to previous threads #1 to #60 can be found in this thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 61: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5472628-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-61 8 January 2026 to 3 August 2026

Thread 62: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5562302-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-62 3 August 2026 to 24 September 2026

Thread 63: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5581909-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-63 24 September 2026 to 27 September 2026

Thread 64: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5583133-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-64 27 September 2026 to 29 September 2026

OP posts:
Thread gallery
29
CriticalCondition · 29/09/2026 14:20

Holds breath...

FarriersGirl · 29/09/2026 14:20

From TT:

said and did what she did. Can you explain to me why it's not relevant.
DH - whilst I can see the relevance, there may be points where I reserve my position if we stray beyond what is reasonably.
J on the basis that motivations are relevant I will allow that question.

Boiledbeetle · 29/09/2026 14:20

Wow! Wasn't expecting that.

chilling19 · 29/09/2026 14:21

oh, now she will be in the firing line.

ickky · 29/09/2026 14:21

She wont say it.

Appalonia · 29/09/2026 14:22

Hmm don't know what to make of that...

Boiledbeetle · 29/09/2026 14:22

chilling19 · 29/09/2026 14:21

oh, now she will be in the firing line.

100%

Hedgehogforshort · 29/09/2026 14:22

NC will have prepared some of her line of questioning bases on GT witness statement, will be interesting to see where she is going

CriticalCondition · 29/09/2026 14:23

I don't think that is the end of it. NC is laying the ground for a trap we can't see yet.

Boiledbeetle · 29/09/2026 14:24

CriticalCondition · 29/09/2026 14:23

I don't think that is the end of it. NC is laying the ground for a trap we can't see yet.

I really hope so

please GIF
Rightsraptor · 29/09/2026 14:24

NC is always laying the ground for traps I haven't seen yet.

Boiledbeetle · 29/09/2026 14:25

Rightsraptor · 29/09/2026 14:24

NC is always laying the ground for traps I haven't seen yet.

Bet she's fab in escape rooms!

Boiledbeetle · 29/09/2026 14:26

Hands round biscuits.

Need to keep sugar levels up.

Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #65
prejudiceandpride · 29/09/2026 14:26

she's luring this witness into her web

Spider Web Halloween GIF
Kirschcherries · 29/09/2026 14:27

pontefractals · 29/09/2026 14:01

Hm, I disagree. I find emails a lot easier; I can gather my thoughts and make sure I've not missed anything. I'm not great on phone calls, never have been, especially if the person I'm speaking to happens to have any sort of accent that I'm not used to. In this case, I think I'd also be keen to be using emails so nobody could lie afterwards about what they'd said. Of course, that might well be the reason the RCN preferred calls, too.

Honestly I can say from experience when resolving situations like this a quick phone call is much better than email.

Emails are good to follow up to confirm what has been agreed/discussed.

janeszebra · 29/09/2026 14:28

Her lack of knowledge about this whole debate is remarkable.

Boiledbeetle · 29/09/2026 14:28

This woman is claiming to literally know nothing about anything.

How the hell did she ever get employment?

CriticalCondition · 29/09/2026 14:29

I think the witness is starting to feel she's being lead up a path but she's not sure which one.

Rightsraptor · 29/09/2026 14:30

Boiledbeetle · 29/09/2026 14:25

Bet she's fab in escape rooms!

Unlike me!

Harking back to the Michael Foran vs Alexandra Asteriti thing, MF has given us loads of his time on this issue (OK, perhaps we have to subscribe to his Substack to benefit from it, but still) and I can't see that AA has done anything similar - please correct me if I'm wrong. One night in 2025 MF did about a 3 hr dissection of the ET shenanigans in the Peggie case. So he will be 'lionised'. Sorry, Alexandra: you've got to compete to win the game.

FarriersGirl · 29/09/2026 14:30

From TT:

My note - not sure if we have a technical problem as TT have not posted for 10 mins

NebulousSupportPostcard · 29/09/2026 14:30

Rightsraptor · 29/09/2026 14:24

NC is always laying the ground for traps I haven't seen yet.

Hahahahahahaha yes!!!

ToastSafeFromMothsAndDogs · 29/09/2026 14:31

I really need to know how Tait answered that question!

KeepupKardigans · 29/09/2026 14:31

She really has no other option than to answer truthfully and concisely. There must be evidence of her stance somewhere.

chilling19 · 29/09/2026 14:31

From TT ‘…Have no personal prejudice. My beliefs align with SC court ruling’. It will be interesting to see how she copes with the fallout - both from the RCN and the TRAs. Might be looking at a future ET.

ILikeDungs · 29/09/2026 14:31

If she mentions her lack of knowledge or expertise ONE MORE TIME...

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.