Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #65

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TLDR version: Sandie Peggie vs Royal College of Nursing is currently being heard. The hearing started on Wednesday 23 September 2026 and is scheduled to end on Thursday 1 October 2026.

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims were of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claimed to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and after a prolonged process judgment was handed down on 8 December 2025. That judgment is being appealed and an appeal hearing is expected to take place in 2027.

Additional legal claims have been raised. Sandie Peggie is taking action against the Royal College of Nursing, against three senior managers who were witnesses in the employment tribunal - Dr Kate Searle, Dr Maggie Currer and Esther Davidson, against Carol Potter, the chief executive of NHS Fife, for victimisation, against NHS Fife for discrimination, and against its director of people and culture David Miller for harassment. In addition, Sandie Peggie is being investigated by the Nursing and Midwifery Council over fitness to practice.

The past proceedings were live tweeted by www.x.com/tribunaltweets. Tribunal Tweets are likely to be providing coverage in current and future proceedings. There's additional information on Tribunal Tweets' substack: www.tribunaltweets.substack.com/.

Links to previous threads #1 to #60 can be found in this thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 61: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5472628-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-61 8 January 2026 to 3 August 2026

Thread 62: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5562302-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-62 3 August 2026 to 24 September 2026

Thread 63: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5581909-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-63 24 September 2026 to 27 September 2026

Thread 64: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5583133-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-64 27 September 2026 to 29 September 2026

It seems she has even less idea of the law than SF. If that were possible.

Intrusive lol

Heavy sigh.

From TT:

NC Yes. Re inner sense of GI didn't change you re EA
GT No
NC By SC judgement 2025 was already not in doubt that TiMs without GRCs and their rights
GT Not explained to me
[missed sorry]
NC To event June 2025 RCN event Shaping inclusive health care
NC You recognise flag with intrusive chevron.
GT Have seen. not often
NC Pink white blue is colours of t flag
GT Not award
NC NP said was id'd with t
GT Not overly familiar with it so can't agree or disagree.

I love NC's tone. So gentle. So reassuring. 😁

NC You recognise flag with intrusive chevron.
GT Have seen. not often
NC Pink white blue is colours of t flag
GT Not award
NC NP said was id'd with t
GT Not overly familiar with it so can't agree or disagree.

Nah! I'm not believing her here.

So lethal

And no knowledge of the previous FWS case….to be fair it would probably be hard to find time in the calendar in between celebrating Trans Day of Visibility, Trans Pride and organising events for Mr Wallace to speak at to schedule awareness of legal cases relating to sex based rights. Priorities, and all that…

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From TT:

NC [to docs] Transcript of session RCN ran. Please read
{GT above should be not aware. Sorry, tech issues]
NC P 24. Do you know what Terfs stands for
GT not really
NC [explains] Aware is term of abuse.
GT Not aware
NC But aware since reading bundle
GT Yes

Are we allowed to say if we think a witness is lying?

NC P 24. Do you know what Terfs stands for
GT not really

Really Gillian? Really?

" Don't know much about history
Don't know much biology... "

@Boiledbeetle we are on the same page...

Trying to avoid deep questioning by feigning ignorance me thinks

If she isn't lying then she is even worse at her job than Stuart.

Is that really possible she doesn't know what terf means???

From TT:

NC Few extreme eg, but characteristic that GI belief v hostile to GC belief
GT Not sure but can see are unpleasant comments.
NC GI characterises other side as bigoted, et.
GT [agrees]
NC N ext q may be objected to. What is your own position. TWAW? FWS bad? Or agree with SP

No.

Playing dumb i would say what a fibber.

Not heard of the slur TERF…. Doesn’t appear to have any curiosity on the subject at all which is surprising considering the fact that she now finds herself at this Tribunal.

and on the topic that is currently under debate between NC and DH, if these officers have no personal opinion then surely that means that their approach to their handling of these cases MUST be due to RCNs corporate policy?

I do hope NC is allowed to obtain an answer to this question. She wouldn't have asked it unless she has evidence of what GT's views are.

There's dumb and then there's this witness! If she she was that unaware of the situation given the job she was in she should have been sacked a long time ago.

From TT:

DH Please don't answer. To judge - re this
[again, apologies - tech]
NC GI v hostile to GC position. So relevant what decision makers view is.
NC and J are discussing whether the question is relevant to the case.
[some of the exchange missed, technical problems meant unplanned change of reporter.
NC saying that whether she put it to other witnesses doesn't arrive.
J I need to determine why this witness said what she

Ooh, this question is a good one