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Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #65

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nauticant · 29/09/2026 10:25

TLDR version: Sandie Peggie vs Royal College of Nursing is currently being heard. The hearing started on Wednesday 23 September 2026 and is scheduled to end on Thursday 1 October 2026.

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims were of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claimed to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and after a prolonged process judgment was handed down on 8 December 2025. That judgment is being appealed and an appeal hearing is expected to take place in 2027.

Additional legal claims have been raised. Sandie Peggie is taking action against the Royal College of Nursing, against three senior managers who were witnesses in the employment tribunal - Dr Kate Searle, Dr Maggie Currer and Esther Davidson, against Carol Potter, the chief executive of NHS Fife, for victimisation, against NHS Fife for discrimination, and against its director of people and culture David Miller for harassment. In addition, Sandie Peggie is being investigated by the Nursing and Midwifery Council over fitness to practice.

The past proceedings were live tweeted by www.x.com/tribunaltweets. Tribunal Tweets are likely to be providing coverage in current and future proceedings. There's additional information on Tribunal Tweets' substack: www.tribunaltweets.substack.com/.

Links to previous threads #1 to #60 can be found in this thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 61: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5472628-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-61 8 January 2026 to 3 August 2026

Thread 62: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5562302-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-62 3 August 2026 to 24 September 2026

Thread 63: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5581909-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-63 24 September 2026 to 27 September 2026

Thread 64: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5583133-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-64 27 September 2026 to 29 September 2026

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Boiledbeetle · 29/09/2026 14:32

ToastSafeFromMothsAndDogs · 29/09/2026 14:31

I really need to know how Tait answered that question!

For those wondering then...

Gillian thinks woman means biological woman.

Appalonia · 29/09/2026 14:32

She just doesn't seem to have a clue! How is that possible?

janeszebra · 29/09/2026 14:33

Manuel is my nickname for this witness.

Appalonia · 29/09/2026 14:33

janeszebra · 29/09/2026 14:33

Manuel is my nickname for this witness.

I know nothing!😂

Scout2016 · 29/09/2026 14:34

GT is doing a good Fawlty Towers "I know naaaa-thhhiiinggg" turn here.

What does she know?

FedUpCelery · 29/09/2026 14:34

chilling19 · 29/09/2026 14:31

From TT ‘…Have no personal prejudice. My beliefs align with SC court ruling’. It will be interesting to see how she copes with the fallout - both from the RCN and the TRAs. Might be looking at a future ET.

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A smart answer that avoided her having to say the words.
If she is able to form an answer like that then it follows that she must understand more about the situation than she has admitted to.

Scout2016 · 29/09/2026 14:34

Hahahaha, snap!

Signalbox · 29/09/2026 14:35

Ha ha ha now it's coming out.

SomewhatGlad · 29/09/2026 14:35

Boiledbeetle · 29/09/2026 14:26

Hands round biscuits.

Need to keep sugar levels up.

Were they blessed in The Bluestocking, or produced under their imprimatur, and so are gluten-free?

Appalonia · 29/09/2026 14:36

Haha parroting out the party line!

Inclusive

CriticalCondition · 29/09/2026 14:36

Oh fuck off.

Signalbox · 29/09/2026 14:37

Ha ha ha support for the SC judgment is slipping away.

Scout2016 · 29/09/2026 14:37

Oh my god these RCN people are hard of thinking.

Almost suspiciously so.

ickky · 29/09/2026 14:37

Fence sitting again

nauticant · 29/09/2026 14:37

chilling19 · 29/09/2026 14:31

From TT ‘…Have no personal prejudice. My beliefs align with SC court ruling’. It will be interesting to see how she copes with the fallout - both from the RCN and the TRAs. Might be looking at a future ET.

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The noteworthy thing about the exchange to me was as if this was getting GT to make the most earth-shattering admission.

If the RCN was cool on whether people lean genderist or GC, why was there a need for there to be strenuous moves to prevent her views being known?

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chilling19 · 29/09/2026 14:37

Another slippery wriggly worm here, but NC persists

CriticalCondition · 29/09/2026 14:37

Fence sitting big time.

RoseInAPot · 29/09/2026 14:38

Nick still posting so I'm following there.

(DH currently baking me some lemon shortbread; I'll renew his contract for another month I think 😄)

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 29/09/2026 14:38

She definitely know more than she is claiming - she wouldn't be so carefully picking her words if she was unaware

FarriersGirl · 29/09/2026 14:38

From TT:

J - seems reasonable
DH - will reserve my position if we stray beyond the reasonable
J will allow question
NC Back to same q. Personal opinion c SP or TWAW.
GT Understand SC view as it is. At no point would my personal belief come into how I would as senior nurse support patients or relatives
NC ?
GT Have no personal prejudice. My beliefs align with SC court ruling.
NC [ to docs] Have you seen before?
GT no
NC please read. NC Do you agree that that's an uncritical piece about G affirmation surgery. Its a good thing
GT Don't agree
NC Complains c long waiting lists for

CriticalCondition · 29/09/2026 14:38

nauticant · 29/09/2026 14:37

The noteworthy thing about the exchange to me was as if this was getting GT to make the most earth-shattering admission.

If the RCN was cool on whether people lean genderist or GC, why was there a need for there to be strenuous moves to prevent her views being known?

Ooh, good call!

Boiledbeetle · 29/09/2026 14:39

SomewhatGlad · 29/09/2026 14:35

Were they blessed in The Bluestocking, or produced under their imprimatur, and so are gluten-free?

Blessed by Gloria from the Bluestocking.

nauticant · 29/09/2026 14:39

RoseInAPot · 29/09/2026 14:38

Nick still posting so I'm following there.

(DH currently baking me some lemon shortbread; I'll renew his contract for another month I think 😄)

Impressive multi-tasking with him also representing RCN in the hearing.

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chilling19 · 29/09/2026 14:39

@nauticant exactly.

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