Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #63

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TLDR version: Sandie Peggie vs Royal College of Nursing is currently being heard. The hearing started on Wednesday 23 September 2026 and is scheduled to end on Thursday 1 October 2026.

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims were of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claimed to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and after a prolonged process judgment was handed down on 8 December 2025. That judgment is being appealed and an appeal hearing is expected to take place in 2027.

Additional legal claims have been raised. Sandie Peggie is taking action against the Royal College of Nursing, against three senior managers who were witnesses in the employment tribunal - Dr Kate Searle, Dr Maggie Currer and Esther Davidson, against Carol Potter, the chief executive of NHS Fife, for victimisation, against NHS Fife for discrimination, and against its director of people and culture David Miller for harassment. In addition, Sandie Peggie is being investigated by the Nursing and Midwifery Council over fitness to practice.

The past proceedings were live tweeted by www.x.com/tribunaltweets. Tribunal Tweets are likely to be providing coverage in current and future proceedings. There's additional information on Tribunal Tweets' substack: tribunaltweets.substack.com/.

Links to previous threads #1 to #60 can be found in this thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 60: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5461133-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-60 16 December 2025 to 8 January 2026

Thread 61: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5472628-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-61 8 January 2026 to 3 August 2026

Thread 62: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5562302-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-62 3 August 2026 to 24 September 2026

Could any GC people on here TOE the line, please, while we Watch Our Language. Tx.

Exactly. God forbid anyone is offended.

Please please please can we just not?

Losing track of who is on tomorrow. I sneak a quick look on here in between lessons (I am a teacher in a phone free school so I have to engage in subterfuge…..). Thanks to the cut and pasters (which autocarrot wanted to change to cute pastors) I can follow along.

But, names and faces don’t stick. What are we going to hear about tomorrow?

The two Darlington Nurses.

You know the ones who won pretty much the same case as SP, but not in Scotland.

It's TOE the line. It's not about pulling barges. This isn't a personal correction. This one annoys me no matter who does it.

Jennifer Melle and Darlington nurse and President of the Darlington Nursing Union, Bethany Hutchison, will give evidence at Sandie Peggie's hearing against the Royal College of Nursing tomorrow (Monday).

https://x.com/DarlingtonUnion/status/2104174435494236305

Thank you. Another case I followed on here thanks to TT and the C&P crew.

And this is what I was wondering about in my question. If the union have been negligent by failing to recognise and take seriously the discrimination, but still followed their own rules, does the judge have to accept that? It was the “advice” which discriminated against SP rather than the refusal of legal representation
Would that be a separate case against the union for crap advice negligence?

Thank goodness I asked it as people responding are helping to keep the thread on track!!

Hmmm. I know what I saw and heard and read. I'll wait for the outcome of the appeal with (hopefully) a less captured judge presiding.
You are aware that the original judgment was a joke, right?

“Toe the line” means to conform to a rule, standard, or authority—often a bit unwillingly. The spelling is toe, not tow.

The first known printed use is military. In John Railton’s 1738 account of British army life, an officer barks: “Silence, you Dogs, toe the Line, you Puppies.” A 1775 American militia drill manual is even more explicit: soldiers must “bring their toes to the line” at each step of a wheeling march.

Navy writing uses the same idea. An 1831 account of shipboard life describes sailors lined up on the quarterdeck “each with his toes at the edge of a plank,” in what were called “toe-the-line matches” (scoldings). On wooden decks the plank seams themselves served as the line.

A nice touch in the novels of Patrick O’Brian is the inability of many of Jack Aubrey’s crews to toe the line (the seam in the deck) properly and the mild exasperation this engenders.

Thanks. I have ADHD and dyslexia- my spelling has always been atrocious. I often think I would have found things easier if someone had taught me any phonics, but in those days and all..

I didn't think it was a joke. I thought it was surprisingly (in the current context) thoughtful and balanced and true to the facts.