Child raped in toilet by Transwoman

[Letterleaf]

Hang on. I thought trans women in female toilets were never a threat. In fact a trans person at my work told me this never happened…

www.dailymail.com/news/article-16132895/German-transgender-policewoman-rapes-14-year-old-girl-stash-child-porn.html

Agreed

It’s like the OP is pleased it happened to prove their point

I used to be a TRA as a teenager and so I am reasonably versed in gender identity philosophy. As such, I can tell you that it has long been accepted online that you don't have to have "bottom dysphoria" to be trans. That means, you don't have to be uncomfortable with your genitalia. Transwomen can have penises and enjoy having and using them, and many males aspire to have a highly feminine appearance while retaining their penises. One term for this is "dickgirl".

Assuming that people have to be dysphoric about their genitalia to qualify as trans has been classified as transphobic gatekeeping since circa 2008. Possibly earlier.

None of the men I know are rapists either. I am generally only friends with nice people. None of the transwomen I know have given me a moments concern that they might be any more likely to be a rapist than any of the men I know. That doesn't stop them from being male.

You are friends with nice people. That group of nice people includes various different genders and identities, and that's lovely.

Law is not based on the assumption that everyone is nice. Most people are nice. Some people are bad.

The most vulnerable are protected when all the nice people behave in ways that make it very very difficult for the actions of bad people to go unnoticed and unchallenged. Eg in safeguarding, people in positions of authority and influence are very careful not to be in a totally unobserved 1:1 with someone vulnerable - office doors are left open, another adult is within earshot, buildings are designed with windows in the doors - and that's what is normalised so that someone with bad intentions has to be seen and noticed to break those conventions in order to get into a private 1:1 situation with their victim. Every single good, kind and non abusive teacher, priest or other person who follows good safeguarding practices is helping to reduce the tragedies where safeguarding fails and someone is abused.

Similarly every single good, kind and honourable transwoman who stays out of all-female spaces is helping to keep those spaces safe by making it so rare that a male person breaches that convention that everyone notices and is on high alert if it ever happens. And every single transwoman who uses female spaces is helping to erode the idea that single sex spaces can ever exist, and makes incidents like this more likely even if they never hurt a woman directly themself.

How do you know though? Can you read minds?
Many people THINK they know someone - until they don't.

None of the men I know are rapists either.

If you know 20 men, the expected number of rapists you know is one. He'll even admit to it as long as you don't actually use the R word but instead describe the act.

This is why the first rule of safeguarding is "no one is above suspicion".

how do you know itwas not a TIM? If someone says they are trans we must believe them, so this man is in fact trans. The TRA rules, not mine

Yes. A child was raped by a manIn a toilet. So you agree, to keep girls safe we keep all males out of female spaces however they identify. If not, why not? I have seen previous posts from you where you say we must believe people when they say they spare trans, so we must obviously believe this man right? How can people know this is not a TIM? He says he is, he looks like one. Who are we to dent his identity. Pretty transphobic don’t you think?

Yup my ex was in no way going to remove his penis. He liked his penis. His only goal was to grow as big boobs as possible. He was a TIM.

No its either all or nothing, if they're women's club's or activities they're just for women, there's no compromise.
A gender stealing man would accuse you of gatekeeping womenhood, either they're women and therefore entitled to do everything a woman gets to do or they're men just pretending to be women and they don't get to do anything women do.
All or nothing.

Back in the day, exhibitionists and voyeurs were recognised as sex criminals and it was known that the behavior could escalate so police and public took it seriously.

Schools would send round warnings that a man had been lurking around the gate showing his penis to mothers and children. Now any man who wants to go into a loo or changing room can do so by claiming to be a transwoman.

If he's doing it for a sex thrill triggered by the offence and fear he creates, he will have to escalate to get the same return. Men who talk sex around unconsenting women are dodgy, always have been, ditto men who put on sexualised display.

So decent transwomen have to stay out of women's spaces so as not to provide a shield for the dangerous creeps.

But we’re constantly told that nothing like this ever happens and it’s bigoted to mention it when it does happen. Which you are pretty much doing.

@AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment and @Rollingpinofdoom I think it's psychiatrist Dr Az Hakeem who talks about regret from surgery. For some of his patients the motivation was sexual, autogynophilia, and once they woke to find their sexual drive gone so was their motivation to transition. No sex drive, no motivation. He spoke about running support groups where he mixed pre and post op patients so the pre ops could get reality checks on the euphoria fantasy fulfillment they think awaits them.

Yep, another time that "The thing that never happens has happened.....AGAIN"

Blimey Rollingpin. I assume you had no suspicions of this when you started the relationship? How long did he hide it for?

We are constantly told this never happens, and it happens.

Was it here, or on X that I read the stats for UK “gender affirming” surgery? The percentage of penectomies (“ bottom”) surgery was around 20% while breast enhancement was over 80%

It’s a fetish. You only have to see them all on instagram or the like, fondling their “breasts.” And indeed, like Dylan Mulvaney, fondling their (retained) “bulge.”

I wouldn't think anyone is smug about it, it needs calling out though that the risks of men with fetishes of dressing up as women and using female areas as part of that is fairly widespread in terms of why they do it. It not because they think ' they're in the wrong body, and oh my poor mental health '

It’s not what you say it’s the way that you say it…. Bananarama defence. You don’t like what’s being said, so you criticise the tone.

You might think that but unfortunately it seems to be quite common given that 74% of the trans women in prison in the UK are sex offenders.

I don't bloody care if they are a "genuine" TW or not - cases like this are why men should not be in women's spaces.

Oh god this x 1000. This is where, being my true self, and expressing myself, and not 'judging ' and accept me as I am gets us. The local weirdos were once given a wide berth, now one is expected to be kind and recognise difference and embrace diversity. Bullshit.

I would very much like a return to Kink shaming. If you are practicing or exhibiting your Kink in public, then you should be ashamed. If you get a sexual buzz doing something because you know it's taboo, then there's your note to self to keep it indoors.

The comment is absolutely fair. I’m sick of the endless gaslighting. Men who trespass in women’s spaces are dangerous, and you shouldn’t try to minimise that fact.

There is a long standing division between men and women when women need single sex space for privacy and safety. In no small part this is because of the criminal actions of some men. Society has long recognised this. Obviously not all men, but enough of them and obviously we can’t tell which men, just by looking. So for the safety, dignity and privacy of women all men are barred.

Transwomen are biological men. You’d think that before they were given access to women’s spaces there would need to be good data showing that their patterns of criminal behaviour lined up with women and not men. But that never happened. In the same way that you’d think that before transwomen were let into women's’ sports there would need to be good data showing that they had lost all male sporting advantage. And that didn’t happen either.

i wonder why that is? Don’t tell me, it’s at the tip of my tongue…

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Theres a difference between op posting ‘the thing we warned everyone about has sadly come true’ vs what she wrote. I’m not minimising what happened by saying that