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Man arrested for self identifying as a converted muslim woman.

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AwfulButTrue · 12/09/2026 18:02

I think this throws the door open for all kinds of questions about fairness.

Men have been banned from covering their faces at protests so one man identified as a muslim woman and wore a burka, he was arrested.

I've seen 2 media outlets so far with headlines reporting that 'a man' has been arrested.

If we break it down...

If a 'real' muslim woman attends a protest (a Pro Palestine one for example) would she be arrested?

Has he been arrested for wearing the burka or identifying as a woman falsly?

Why is he not believed when he says he is a woman?

After all, it is fluid day to day and just a feeling! And any man can decide to become a woman at any point?

And who says he cannot decide to convert to Islam??

And why is he being reported as 'a man in a burka' when transwomen are NEVER reported this way when they self identify, even after committing rape?!

We all know why he is doing this.

But he is simply playing the establishment at their own game.

Why have so many Palestine protests occoured with men covering their faces with Kaffirs and balaclavas but it only becomes a problem now?

Why is it a problem to self identify now?

Why is it not a problem for a muslim woman to cover her face in a bank or school or park but this 'muslim woman' cannot?

Of course its ridiculous

But the point is that ALL self identification and complete covering of the face in public is ridiculous

But its only this man be arresed and called out for seemingly both things?

Man arrested for self identifying as a converted muslim woman.
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KittyCorncrake · Yesterday 17:31

Religion is superstition /should really not have any legal standing. Is ridiculous that the religion that wears turbans have an exemption from wearing a motorbike helmet.

KittyCorncrake · Yesterday 17:35

What would happen if a trans Muslim woman turned up at a mosque to pray with the women? Surely the law would support this incursion into woman only spaces - much less controversial - you’d think- than women’s toilets?
Would be really interesting if there is any example of transwomen doing this. Surely if trans is a thing there must be transwomen of all religions?
Perhaps the Portsmouth one will be attending mosque with her sisters in religion in advance of her trial? 😂😂

ButButItsDifferentWhenWeDoIt · Yesterday 17:50

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quantumbutterfly · Yesterday 18:05

ButButItsDifferentWhenWeDoIt · 12/09/2026 20:09

Maybe they should. Dark misty eyes and black leather gloves 🔥 😳

That'll make good copy on the style & beauty boards.

NorthXNorthWest · Yesterday 18:11

Allisnotlost1 · Yesterday 14:55

No gotcha, just when people say ‘treat everyone the same’ it seems like they’ve never needed adaptation or consideration and therefore think no-one else does. Disability is an obvious example of where most people do agree with different treatment according to need.

Doubling down on a false equivalence doesn’t make it any less nonsensical.

quantumbutterfly · Yesterday 18:12

Contain4 · 12/09/2026 23:11

We do have the freedom to protest.

People protest all of the time.

The majority of protests have been people that are unmasked.

The protest around Sarah Everhard had some people wearing masks due to Covid but anytime you see a protest most people do not cover their faces.

Remind us what happened to women at the Sarah Everard vigil.

quantumbutterfly · Yesterday 18:17

MintBird · Yesterday 00:29

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/far-right-thug-who-marched-37509581

I wonder if Alan Miller was at Sat's far right rally in Glasgow again? A far-right man who beat up 2 of his ex's and his mum. Even if he wore a balaclava this time we'd still have a way to recognise him.

ty DR keep exposing them.

He has a womens chest ...to quote blackadder.

YourAmplePlumPoster · Yesterday 18:22

We've had protestors for months on end parading around in Keffiyahs and other face coverings. Why is it suddenly an issue now?

SquashedPineapple · Yesterday 18:47

Why are you talking about some South African's opinion?
Stop watching BBC News and go outside some more.

If you think the country is in a sustainable position as is, then you're either oblivious, thick, or both, and I genuinely don't mean that as an insult but take it as you will.

Echobelly · Yesterday 18:54

Because people can generally use their common sense as to whether someone is acting in good faith. What the fuck would a Muslim trans woman be doing at a far right protest? He's quite clearly taking the piss and self-ID doesn't mean abandoning all sense of judgement and proportion.

When male basketball players go all over social media sneering 'LOL we're going to say we're women to join the WBNA' you can turn down their application because they're all over social media sneering 'LOL we're going to say we're women to join the WBNA'. Judgement.

Similarly, self-ID doesn't mean that a man can put on a dress and turn up at a women's refuge with an axe and say 'Let me in I am an abused woman' - people can apply judgement.

It does not invalidate 'Believe trans women', because in these situations it's fucking obvious people are acting in bad faith and aren't trans women. All these attempts to go 'Har-de-har I'm going to show these woke morons will swallow anything' fall flat.

lcakethereforeIam · Yesterday 19:02

Isla Bryson.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 19:03

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I don't like being labelled 'cis' and I don't like being labelled 'Kafir' either, thank you very much.

ShitHoleDweller · Yesterday 19:07

YourAmplePlumPoster · Yesterday 18:22

We've had protestors for months on end parading around in Keffiyahs and other face coverings. Why is it suddenly an issue now?

Because hard left = good, hard right = bad.

myjamisbetterthanyours · Yesterday 19:09

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Isn’t the K word a derogatory term?

Why do you think it’s acceptable to use it?

myjamisbetterthanyours · Yesterday 19:10

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 19:03

I don't like being labelled 'cis' and I don't like being labelled 'Kafir' either, thank you very much.

Quite.

ThisFunSheep · Yesterday 19:13

@Echobelly "What the fuck would a Muslim trans woman be doing at a far right protest?"

Rather prejudice now aren't we? It's a stop the boats protest. A Muslim trans woman could attend.

Although to be clear I understand this person is claiming to be "genderfluid", not trans and exploring Islam.

A Muslim woman is running for Reform Mayor of London.

Being Muslim doesn't mean supporting illegal immigrants, especially young men who seem to have high levels of sexual assaults.

Seriestwo · Yesterday 19:26

Kafir - that’s a class of women that some fundamentalist Islamic teachings say can be raped, right?

ButButItsDifferentWhenWeDoIt · Yesterday 19:28

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 19:03

I don't like being labelled 'cis' and I don't like being labelled 'Kafir' either, thank you very much.

Why would it bother you? it’s just words and other people’s nonsense In the eyes of Islam if you’re not a Muslim then you are Kafir whether you like it or not. See also goy for balance.

Cis I quite like as it quickly lets me know they’re a bellend which is always helpful x

Bitsostuff · Yesterday 19:29

AwfulButTrue · 12/09/2026 18:07

I have to add, I do not support this but I can see how it definitely shows there is a hypocrisy.

Either we accept all self identification or we don't.

If a convicted rapist can claim self ID after commiting that crime and be trusted he is a woman enough to be put in a female prison then why isn't this man believed?

But he can't now, can he?

ShitHoleDweller · Yesterday 19:33

ButButItsDifferentWhenWeDoIt · Yesterday 19:28

Why would it bother you? it’s just words and other people’s nonsense In the eyes of Islam if you’re not a Muslim then you are Kafir whether you like it or not. See also goy for balance.

Cis I quite like as it quickly lets me know they’re a bellend which is always helpful x

Are you the arbiter of who can feel offence and at what? In an era of words being literal violence I think it’s okay for the poster to feel aggrieved at a term that indicates they are lesser than.

Allisnotlost1 · Yesterday 19:39

NorthXNorthWest · Yesterday 18:11

Doubling down on a false equivalence doesn’t make it any less nonsensical.

To you, and that’s fine.

ButButItsDifferentWhenWeDoIt · Yesterday 19:44

myjamisbetterthanyours · Yesterday 19:09

Isn’t the K word a derogatory term?

Why do you think it’s acceptable to use it?

Not derogatory google non Muslim it’s just an Arabic word although in some countries belonging to that group can have a negative impact on your life if that concerns you to or is it just words?

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myjamisbetterthanyours · Yesterday 19:50

ButButItsDifferentWhenWeDoIt · Yesterday 19:28

Why would it bother you? it’s just words and other people’s nonsense In the eyes of Islam if you’re not a Muslim then you are Kafir whether you like it or not. See also goy for balance.

Cis I quite like as it quickly lets me know they’re a bellend which is always helpful x

Are you trying to be as offensive as you possibly can?

Rollingpinofdoom · Yesterday 20:00

Echobelly · Yesterday 18:54

Because people can generally use their common sense as to whether someone is acting in good faith. What the fuck would a Muslim trans woman be doing at a far right protest? He's quite clearly taking the piss and self-ID doesn't mean abandoning all sense of judgement and proportion.

When male basketball players go all over social media sneering 'LOL we're going to say we're women to join the WBNA' you can turn down their application because they're all over social media sneering 'LOL we're going to say we're women to join the WBNA'. Judgement.

Similarly, self-ID doesn't mean that a man can put on a dress and turn up at a women's refuge with an axe and say 'Let me in I am an abused woman' - people can apply judgement.

It does not invalidate 'Believe trans women', because in these situations it's fucking obvious people are acting in bad faith and aren't trans women. All these attempts to go 'Har-de-har I'm going to show these woke morons will swallow anything' fall flat.

Karen White.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Yesterday 20:13

ButButItsDifferentWhenWeDoIt · Yesterday 19:28

Why would it bother you? it’s just words and other people’s nonsense In the eyes of Islam if you’re not a Muslim then you are Kafir whether you like it or not. See also goy for balance.

Cis I quite like as it quickly lets me know they’re a bellend which is always helpful x

Cis I quite like as it quickly lets me know they’re a bellend which is always helpful x

I feel the same way about people who use the term kafir, so thanks for the heads up, and if anyone comes on and uses the term goy, I'll know what to call them as well.

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