BBC drops Drag Race UK

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“Started in 2019, Drag Race UK brought British drag into mainstream entertainment in the UK”. I think the Black & White Minstrel Show played a similar role in platforming Black performers in the 1950/ 1970s. And made them mainstream entertainment. Giving a voice to marginalised, and underrepresented cultures. BBC

Where does it say that schools cannot use the term trans child?

That would be social transition

Yeah I can see they’re using it, and so they’re probably expecting schools to use it, but the PP mentions that the guidance tells staff not to use trans and so that no one in a school is allowed to refer to a child as trans. I couldn’t see anything explicitly saying that it’s not allowed?

It doesn’t explicitly say but the gatekeeping has been tightened completely.

If any social transition is to occur, it must be supported by parents and nhs/ CAHMS professionals. But even then they’re questioning as the avenues to desist need to be clear for the child.

If I’m honest, no it’s not clear enough as my own school policy and training showed. (This is being addressed.)

Oh thank goodness. I cannot understand the "attraction"

Drag is an entertainment form where a man is pretending to be a woman and that is very clear. Not to my taste, but no issue with it being on tv. A bit suprised it has been ended, as the BBC usually continue something well past its sell by date (the Apprentice, Strictly, for example).

And it is not the foul mouthed programme made with tax dodgers and half the family that is advertised falsely as a comedy, Mrs Brown's Boys.

Yeah I agree with the things that had been tightened, especially with saying it should have support from parents etc. I just thought staff were going to get into trouble for saying trans when it hadn’t been mentioned at my school.

Good. Load of misogynistic shite.

Every gay pub in the 80s had a drag act on and I hated it couldn’t wait for it to go out of fashion…

I agree. I found “La Voix” entertaining and funny, and not an offensive parody. It was clear that this was his stage persona, but we also got to see the real man, Chris, who performs as La Voix, being himself. It was a good part of the show IMO. I’m wondering when they will include a drag king in strictly soon to balance things out?
Hmmm…we might be waiting a while for that level of inclusion.

I think that’s going to be an impossible situation because so many staff will be convinced they exist or have trans identified children themselves

For years I thought Ru Paul’s drag race was actually drag racing, huge surprise when I accidentally saw it. Loathe drag totally misogynistic

This is the start of pointing out the issues and getting the concept of detransition in.

(If schools have been adequately trained.)

I should add, I’ve never watched drag race so can’t really comment on that.

I’ve only ever watched one episode. In it, a group of men were alluding to being fingered. Not up the bum but as if they had vulvas. All done in a risqué, tongue in cheek but derogatory manner by men wearing dresses and make up. It was vile.

About bloody time it’s removed.

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I thought that comment was meant to be tongue in cheek

I don't really get why it represents LGBTplus to be honest... Do straight men never do drag. Honest question as I don't know. How do they know the drag queens are gay or whatever. And surely they aren't trans as surely trans people wouldn't parade about saying they are dressing and performing as what they think a woman is?

Sorry I seem to have quoted the wrong poster.

I’m glad I’m not the only one pleased to see it go.

X is currently full of individuals rabidly attacking any woman who dares express these same sentiments with some quite horrific personal comments, particularly about their (female) appearance.

I know there’s the inevitable defence about pantomime dames, Dick Emery and Edna Everage, but these representations weren’t portraying women as sexually predatory or vulgar tarts. They were and are deliberately and obviously men dressed up badly as women, and that was part of the humour.

I can only ask those that say it is a homage to women to consider whether they would find a group of obviously straight men mincing about in tight trousers, pouting, flouncing and throwing tantrums, a fair representation of gay people or an obviously crude and offensive dehumanising trope?

Because that’s exactly what drag is; a lazy caricature that reinforces a harmful misogynistic stereotype of all females.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2026/sep/10/dont-sashay-away-the-bbcs-decision-to-cancel-ru-pauls-drag-race-uk-is-sickening-in-all-the-wrong-ways

The Guardian is upset

I could never get over how repetitive it was and still is.

I enjoyed it once but after that it soon became very tedious.

Minstrel shows were part of violent systemic racism. They were vital props (and propaganda) for slavery, depicting Black people as subhuman simpletons incapable of making their own decisions.

Under slavery, Black women were treated as less than animals, raped from cradle to grave by their 'owners', forced through rape to create more and more children until they died, often very young.

Minstrel shows promoted the lie that Black women were promiscuous, stupid and undeserving of any rights.

Comparing any form of minstrel show to drag is repellent. Women do drag, and it is a protest. Drag has always been subversive, and a way for LGBT+ people to express themselves. Try reading some queer history and seeing why.

It is deeply racist to compare drag to minstrel shows. A total denial and
trivialisation of the malice and violence behind the former.

Minstrel shows were part of violent systemic racism. They were vital props (and propaganda) for slavery, depicting Black people as subhuman simpletons incapable of making their own decisions.

Under slavery, Black women were treated as less than animals, raped from cradle to grave by their 'owners', forced through rape to create more and more children until they died, often very young.

Minstrel shows promoted the lie that Black women were promiscuous, stupid and undeserving of any rights.

Comparing any form of minstrel show to drag is repellent. Women do drag, and it is a protest. Drag has always been subversive, and a way for LGBT+ people to express themselves. Try reading some queer history and seeing why.

It is deeply racist to compare drag to minstrel shows. A total denial and
trivialisation of the malice and violence behind the former.