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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Green Party and the word ‘female’

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BackToLurk · Today 06:25

Omnicause veteran Eli Folan (who tweets as Stats for Lefties) has been elected to the Green Party’s governing council. Eli, as they tell us twice, is a ‘female’ rep. I don’t know whether this phrasing is the Green’s or is Eli’s special contribution.

The Green Party and the word ‘female’
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MarcTheGenderSkeptic · Today 13:53

Stats For Lefties should be renamed as Fantasies For Me.
Gotta love the line "I welcome hate from Zionists" as if a bun fight in an echo chamber has any significance in the real world.
Tbh, it's good this is happening. The Greens need to be fully poisoned by this toxin of IDentarian politics, suffer as infighting increases and poll ratings suffer. bring out the immune reaction, and somehow tack back to normality, starting with idiots like this being shown up, and then Polanski failing and being replaced.
In the meantime, I pity the poor normal pro-environment, pro-GC members who have to suffer specimens like this at the risk of their party failing.

lcakethereforeIam · Today 13:53

ArabellaScott · Today 13:13

Not in my experience. She says 'brunch capital of Scotland'.

I lived there for three years, that was ... not something I'd have ever heard. To be fair there is/was a good cafe on Victoria Road.

Apologies. I meant to type 'brunch'.

MarieBeau · Today 13:55

quantumbutterfly · Today 13:45

Cuckooing. Greenies that actually care for the environment may get a nasty surprise.

I understand it completely from the Muslims POV. Makes sense for them. Cuckooing indeed.
I don't understand the lefts obsession.

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · Today 13:56

Igneococcus · Today 06:48

Ooh, Sophus has got that blank waxy look that so many child-"adult" activist/true believers has.
We used to suffer when alpha politicians fucked it up, now it's the time of the betas.

ArabellaScott · Today 13:56

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · Today 13:53

Stats For Lefties should be renamed as Fantasies For Me.
Gotta love the line "I welcome hate from Zionists" as if a bun fight in an echo chamber has any significance in the real world.
Tbh, it's good this is happening. The Greens need to be fully poisoned by this toxin of IDentarian politics, suffer as infighting increases and poll ratings suffer. bring out the immune reaction, and somehow tack back to normality, starting with idiots like this being shown up, and then Polanski failing and being replaced.
In the meantime, I pity the poor normal pro-environment, pro-GC members who have to suffer specimens like this at the risk of their party failing.

StatsforLefties being promoted to a prominent position is possibly going to tip them over the edge.

Although I've been watching the party descend further and further into madness, and you think it surely coudln't get worse, and then ... you look at the Scottish Greens.

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · Today 13:58

ArabellaScott · Today 08:02

Now that is interesting.

The faultlines are several. There is the Baggy Khan faction, the trans faction, and the old school Greens. All pulling in different directions.

I wonder how much this mum and her famous daughter Hannah agree.

MrsOvertonsWindow · Today 14:04

ArabellaScott · Today 13:56

StatsforLefties being promoted to a prominent position is possibly going to tip them over the edge.

Although I've been watching the party descend further and further into madness, and you think it surely coudln't get worse, and then ... you look at the Scottish Greens.

This is a very wise comment from that Reddit thread you posted:

"The media is going to have an absolute field day with her if they fancy going looking. Oh dear".

quantumbutterfly · Today 14:06

MarieBeau · Today 13:55

I understand it completely from the Muslims POV. Makes sense for them. Cuckooing indeed.
I don't understand the lefts obsession.

Idealists were instrumental in bringing Khomeini to power & thence the IRGC. Idealists being hijacked by power hungry pragmatists rather like the ' Denton' people.

ArabellaScott · Today 14:07

Hey, Elliott. This you?

'When a woman tells me something I say is sexist, it’s not my place to tell her that it isn’t but to listen and to make sure I’m not sexist in future. '

Elliott, calling yourself 'female' and taking a woman's place in a political party is sexist.

https://archive.thetab.com/uk/norwich/2013/10/27/why-i-voted-yes-9491

Why I Voted 'Yes'.

Union Councillor Elliot Folan discusses his response- and why he feels it is right to boycott bigotry.

https://archive.thetab.com/uk/norwich/2013/10/27/why-i-voted-yes-9491

Treaclewell · Today 14:08

The Greens were, like the Quakers, a soft target, not full of people honed on political deviousness, pub planning meetings before the official meetings and probably another layer before that. It's hard to deal with that sort of thing when you don't think like that.
I met something of it when my sister was invited to speak with Bruce Kent at an NUT Conference side meeting, which was misdirected by Rank and File or someone else lefty. There was a toxic atmosphere which even led to poisoning my family - "Don't ring until I've had a chance to tell her," broken by a member of my local branch whom I never felt the same about after. She got to speak at the original, much reduced meeting, and then met with Bruce Kent, who was not best pleased at having been used. The successor union the NEU is well captured.
The Friends and the Greens used not to spend time planning how to deal with that sort of thing, so were wide open to capture. I suppose the WI were too, and probably GG. No politicks, with an attractive front window. Who else?

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · Today 14:11

ArabellaScott · Today 14:07

Hey, Elliott. This you?

'When a woman tells me something I say is sexist, it’s not my place to tell her that it isn’t but to listen and to make sure I’m not sexist in future. '

Elliott, calling yourself 'female' and taking a woman's place in a political party is sexist.

https://archive.thetab.com/uk/norwich/2013/10/27/why-i-voted-yes-9491

Virtue is such a strong drug. When laced with hypocrisy, it's absolutely lethal.

ArabellaScott · Today 14:22

Elliot seems rational.

The Green Party and the word ‘female’
The Green Party and the word ‘female’
TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Today 14:48

Ugh, he also claiming to be a lesbian. He's appropriated everything and dragged it into his nightmare world, the environment, religion, same sex attraction and of course womenhood.
Funny how all the comments on Redit can see he's toxicly gross, and completely unhinged, but can't see he's a man.

MarieBeau · Today 14:49

Why do they always put 'mentally ill' in their bios like its an achievement?

BackToLurk · Today 14:49

From Terf Times on Facebook

TERF Times would like to offer warmest congratulations to “Proud anti-Zionist trans woman” Eleanora Ní Chualáin, also known as Eleanora Sophie Folan, who made history yesterday by becoming the Green Party’s first male to be elected as the female representative for the East of England.

According to Stats for Lefties, the polling-analysis account he runs, Folan won the coveted woman spot by six votes, 784 to 778.

Folan is following in the size 10s of many trailblazing trans activists before him. First amongst these was Aimee Challenor who became the Green Party’s Equalities spokesperson and made a bid for the deputy leadership. Challenor withdrew in 2018 after it emerged that he had employed his father as an election agent while the latter was facing charges for the rape and torture of a child in the attic of the house they shared. David Challenor was subsequently jailed for 22 years.

Folan now joins a flourishing Green sisterhood of men that includes Scottish Green MSP Iris Duane and Green councillors Elaine Gallagher, Raphael Hill, Jenny Knight, Eden Hills and Amy Kirkby-Taylor.

The Green Party Council (GPC) now gets to enjoy Folan’s presence as he gambols freely among his own kind, safe at last from the twin horrors of misgendering and public ridicule. Here he can shape governance, policy and strategy while remaining gloriously unburdened by reality.

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LuckyHazelFox · Today 14:51

BackToLurk · Today 14:49

From Terf Times on Facebook

TERF Times would like to offer warmest congratulations to “Proud anti-Zionist trans woman” Eleanora Ní Chualáin, also known as Eleanora Sophie Folan, who made history yesterday by becoming the Green Party’s first male to be elected as the female representative for the East of England.

According to Stats for Lefties, the polling-analysis account he runs, Folan won the coveted woman spot by six votes, 784 to 778.

Folan is following in the size 10s of many trailblazing trans activists before him. First amongst these was Aimee Challenor who became the Green Party’s Equalities spokesperson and made a bid for the deputy leadership. Challenor withdrew in 2018 after it emerged that he had employed his father as an election agent while the latter was facing charges for the rape and torture of a child in the attic of the house they shared. David Challenor was subsequently jailed for 22 years.

Folan now joins a flourishing Green sisterhood of men that includes Scottish Green MSP Iris Duane and Green councillors Elaine Gallagher, Raphael Hill, Jenny Knight, Eden Hills and Amy Kirkby-Taylor.

The Green Party Council (GPC) now gets to enjoy Folan’s presence as he gambols freely among his own kind, safe at last from the twin horrors of misgendering and public ridicule. Here he can shape governance, policy and strategy while remaining gloriously unburdened by reality.

😆 🤣 😂

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · Today 14:52

BackToLurk · Today 14:49

From Terf Times on Facebook

TERF Times would like to offer warmest congratulations to “Proud anti-Zionist trans woman” Eleanora Ní Chualáin, also known as Eleanora Sophie Folan, who made history yesterday by becoming the Green Party’s first male to be elected as the female representative for the East of England.

According to Stats for Lefties, the polling-analysis account he runs, Folan won the coveted woman spot by six votes, 784 to 778.

Folan is following in the size 10s of many trailblazing trans activists before him. First amongst these was Aimee Challenor who became the Green Party’s Equalities spokesperson and made a bid for the deputy leadership. Challenor withdrew in 2018 after it emerged that he had employed his father as an election agent while the latter was facing charges for the rape and torture of a child in the attic of the house they shared. David Challenor was subsequently jailed for 22 years.

Folan now joins a flourishing Green sisterhood of men that includes Scottish Green MSP Iris Duane and Green councillors Elaine Gallagher, Raphael Hill, Jenny Knight, Eden Hills and Amy Kirkby-Taylor.

The Green Party Council (GPC) now gets to enjoy Folan’s presence as he gambols freely among his own kind, safe at last from the twin horrors of misgendering and public ridicule. Here he can shape governance, policy and strategy while remaining gloriously unburdened by reality.

That's a HELL of a polycule. Glad I didn't eat just before reading those names.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Today 14:53

cariadlet · Today 12:30

About 1,600 people voted which was a turnout of just over 8%.
The result was close. He beat the woman by 10 votes in the first round of voting and 6 votes in the 2nd round.

8% and by 6 votes and now they're stuck with this sorry excuse for a human being. It should peak some of them and they should be realising by now what they're involved in, and they should be leaving the party in the droves.

LuckyHazelFox · Today 14:55

If we don't laugh, we will cry.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Today 14:56

MarieBeau · Today 14:49

Why do they always put 'mentally ill' in their bios like its an achievement?

Building up their insanity plea ready. 😂

AlexaAdventuress · Today 14:57

The Green Party certainly seems to have a large number of trans-identified men in key roles. They could make this into an electoral asset. 'The Green Party: Where a man is a man, and so are the women'. The perfect rebuttal to that old stereotype of slightly ineffectual people wearing sandals and drinking soy milk.

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · Today 15:02

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Today 14:53

8% and by 6 votes and now they're stuck with this sorry excuse for a human being. It should peak some of them and they should be realising by now what they're involved in, and they should be leaving the party in the droves.

Can you imagine if you had your feet on the ground and voted against this specimen, partly because of the extreme ick factor, and partly because, um, he's not a woman. And then see that hundreds of your apparent compatriots chose to vote for him.
What would you feel about the decision, more importantly, about them?
What do his supporters think is meant by "healed by trans lesbianism"?
That the world will be a safer more peaceful place if men access lesbian's spaces?
Or that his psychosis is so potent, that lying about this and using it as an excuse is tolerable, honourable even?
Or maybe that reality, the physical world, words themselves, don't mean anything?
You can make up any idea, say anything, and as long as it fits your post modern IDentarian worldview, anything/everything is possible?
Or that these are the dumbest people in the existence of humanity?
I'd be looking to move on, and return when the cancer of Polanski and Ali are excised from the party.

Igneococcus · Today 15:03

Just saw this in the Times, "Greens ridiculed over Unesco heritage bid for bread roll"
https://www.thetimes.com/article/b4285a2b-4cc6-49f6-baec-a395ba6b1262?shareToken=9c29c645940dc535a2f7583819fb2565&ver=article

borntobequiet · Today 15:05

brunch capital

What a shame the term yuppie (used pejoratively) seems to have become redundant.

AlexaAdventuress · Today 15:07

I'm tempted to get my Tunnocks Caramel Wafer designated a site of special scientific interest. I wonder if my local Green councillor would be interested in lending zie/zer support?