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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

In which Amnesty jumps the shark

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WrongKindOfFeminist · 10/07/2026 12:11

A report on 'anti gender actors' from Amnesty appears to be a puzzling work of jumbled nonsense and overwrought fiction.

Either they completely fail to grasp what 'gender critical' means, or they are deliberately trying desperately to bundle it in with Xtian rightwing US organisations. Maybe both.

Trans activists have been accusing UK feminists of being rightwing Xtian US fundamentalist funded for years. Sometimes it's funny, more often it's just fucking tedious.

Anyway.

'An organised anti-rights movement targeting the rights of women and LGBT+ people is growing in the UK. Over 60% of the organisations mapped have emerged since 2017, the vast majority gender critical organisations'

What the everloving fuck do they think they mean, here?

Feminists 'target' the rights of women? In terms of - feminists have fought long and hard for the rights of women? Yes, well done, Amnesty.

Then they whang on a lot about abortion and well funded US rightwing organisations, including religious groups, etc.

And then ...

'In fact, gender critical organisations only account for 2.5% of total expenditure but have been remarkably successful in realising their agenda through strategic litigation and campaigning.'

Will you ever actually use your brains, Amnesty?

The list at the end should give them a wee clue. Dozens of feminist organisations, almost all listed as 'informal', yet lumped in bizarrely with massive US anti abortion groups.

Idiots.

www.amnesty.org.uk/knowledge-hub/all-resources/report-a-growing-threat-the-anti-rights-movement-in-the-uk-july-2026/

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Floisme · 23/07/2026 07:23

Thanks for the Washington Post links. I see it’s written by Andrew Doyle!

lcakethereforeIam · 23/07/2026 09:19

I hadn't noticed that!

Thecatsunderabush · 23/07/2026 09:27

SereneUmberBiscuit · 22/07/2026 18:27

Yes, it would be a man who said that

I first heard a woman say that 40 years ago

Abhannmor · 23/07/2026 09:32

WrongKindOfFeminist · 22/07/2026 12:04

Thanks, that's a very clear explanation of what was swashing around in the back of my head.

Yes. Previously, their remit was clear - defend universal human rights.

It's shifted, to 'defend people who identify as marginalised'.

Perhaps related, Catherine Liu:

'When did identity politics replace class struggle?'

Thanks for this @WrongKindOfFeminist . Catherine Liu is a tonic. Identity politics is the Achilles Heel of the left. I'm afraid I was an early adopter , mea culpa. Back then we called it Personal Politics of course. Catherine Liu has a knack of simplifying these issues which is very refreshing.

Kenan Malik wrote a great article entitled How Culture Wars Always Benefit the Right iirc. It was in the Guardian - gasp! He covered a lot of the same territory. Like Liu , Malik is on the left , used to be in the Revolutionary Communist Party.

Cismyfatarse · 23/07/2026 20:17

Amnesty UK ‘should have reported itself years ago’ over gender rights

https://www.thetimes.com/article/7f808df1-01f9-4d9d-a573-2837ab321cb2?shareToken=51c37703a7c871fa036d8e999f8c0a2d

lcakethereforeIam · 23/07/2026 20:24

Ooh-er!

An Amnesty spokeswoman said: “Amnesty International UK has reached out directly to Sex Matters to offer a meeting. They have not yet responded.

adragoncalledaudrey · 24/07/2026 21:14

I wonder if their ‘reach out’ included a sorry?

I’d be disinclined to respond to a mealie mouthed justification.

Thehorticulturalhussie · 24/07/2026 21:48

lcakethereforeIam · 23/07/2026 20:24

Ooh-er!

An Amnesty spokeswoman said: “Amnesty International UK has reached out directly to Sex Matters to offer a meeting. They have not yet responded.

The term ‘reached out’ speaks for itself.

99bottlesofkombucha · 24/07/2026 23:41

Why would sex matters want to meet them privately?? It just gives amnesty the opportunity to make shit up about what sex matters have said.

hallouminatus · 24/07/2026 23:55

Maya writes in the latest Sex Matters newsletter:

In response to my email asking for a meeting, Amnesty UK’s chief executive, Kerry Moscogiuri, said she could find time in September or October. Perhaps by then she will have worked out her organisation’s position.

adragoncalledaudrey · 25/07/2026 00:26

hallouminatus · 24/07/2026 23:55

Maya writes in the latest Sex Matters newsletter:

In response to my email asking for a meeting, Amnesty UK’s chief executive, Kerry Moscogiuri, said she could find time in September or October. Perhaps by then she will have worked out her organisation’s position.

How very decent.

Don’t rush to pick up the pieces now will you Kez?

Could find time in September or October?

May as well say the 12th of never because that’s how ‘could’ find time reads to me.

Datun · 25/07/2026 08:22

hallouminatus · 24/07/2026 23:55

Maya writes in the latest Sex Matters newsletter:

In response to my email asking for a meeting, Amnesty UK’s chief executive, Kerry Moscogiuri, said she could find time in September or October. Perhaps by then she will have worked out her organisation’s position.

Ffs, they appear to have zero idea of the bomb they've blown up.

Pp are right. Apologies aren't enough. If they're frantically attempting damage control now it says everything.

Either fire everyone or close.

Edited to add that the bit which really got me was the asserting of the gender critical position as the exact opposite of what it actually is.

They don't even understand what women and gay people are talking about.

WrongKindOfFeminist · 25/07/2026 08:37

hallouminatus · 24/07/2026 23:55

Maya writes in the latest Sex Matters newsletter:

In response to my email asking for a meeting, Amnesty UK’s chief executive, Kerry Moscogiuri, said she could find time in September or October. Perhaps by then she will have worked out her organisation’s position.

I actually don't think they grasp how much leeway women have given them. Despite them making a harmful and defamatory report, and horrible accusations, despite them effectively painting targets on a list of women in a febrile climate. They've been given generous opportunities to remedy the situation, because the women listed are actually decent people.

But. They are unable to see clearly because they are locked into a stupid, simplistic, tribalist narrative that tells them they are the Goodies and whoever they decide are the Baddies are on the WSOH.

Seduced by progressive fairytales they cannot grasp that they have done anything wrong. Self justification fallacy is a dangerous thing.

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WrongKindOfFeminist · 25/07/2026 08:38

They are just incapable of asking themselves the key question.

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lcakethereforeIam · 25/07/2026 09:48

Bet they wouldn't even have got in any good biscuits for the meeting.

They're giving the impression that Sex Matters should be grateful for crumbs.

KTheGrey · 25/07/2026 09:56

99bottlesofkombucha · 24/07/2026 23:41

Why would sex matters want to meet them privately?? It just gives amnesty the opportunity to make shit up about what sex matters have said.

I imagine neither side is going to meet without legal advice and representation present. I hope not. It becomes much easier to clarify exactly what is being said once there’s a
legal adviser in the room.

Thehorticulturalhussie · 25/07/2026 09:57

hallouminatus · 24/07/2026 23:55

Maya writes in the latest Sex Matters newsletter:

In response to my email asking for a meeting, Amnesty UK’s chief executive, Kerry Moscogiuri, said she could find time in September or October. Perhaps by then she will have worked out her organisation’s position.

That response from AI CEO is outrageous, patronising, insulting and implies that she's far, far too busy to admit to the damage caused. Heaven forbid she should, y'know, apologise.

Are they actually hoping that all of this will just blow over???? They are aren't they.

KTheGrey · 25/07/2026 10:24

Thehorticulturalhussie · 25/07/2026 09:57

That response from AI CEO is outrageous, patronising, insulting and implies that she's far, far too busy to admit to the damage caused. Heaven forbid she should, y'know, apologise.

Are they actually hoping that all of this will just blow over???? They are aren't they.

Also suggests that the claim that they have “reached out” but haven’t heard back is slightly misleading, implying as it does a solid offer to negotiate - “when I have finished my summer hols” seems to have been missed out from their statement.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/07/2026 14:54

It sounds like a lie, if SM sent the first email requesting the meeting.

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 25/07/2026 15:48

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/07/2026 14:54

It sounds like a lie, if SM sent the first email requesting the meeting.

Well they're used to lying, and used to being narrowminded idiots too, based on the evidence.

I very much hope there are real consequences for encouraging direct discrimination against women, gay people and religious organisations in the way Amnesty has done. They really have become the type of organisation staffed by the type of people they were set up to challenge and hold to account.

ItsCoolForCats · 27/07/2026 08:04

No apology from Amnesty yet?

SecretSquirrelLoo · 27/07/2026 09:01

The deadline must be nearly up

lcakethereforeIam · 27/07/2026 10:04

I think, if my maths was right, one of the letters (MBM?) gave a deadline that expired on the 26th.

Rightsraptor · 27/07/2026 10:13

Are Amnesty going to meet with all the other organisations they've defamed? Perhaps that's why they can't fit SM in for a few months (not really).

But let's not forget the other organisations: the press naturally focus on the big ones but there are others affected.