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In which Amnesty jumps the shark

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WrongKindOfFeminist · Yesterday 12:11

A report on 'anti gender actors' from Amnesty appears to be a puzzling work of jumbled nonsense and overwrought fiction.

Either they completely fail to grasp what 'gender critical' means, or they are deliberately trying desperately to bundle it in with Xtian rightwing US organisations. Maybe both.

Trans activists have been accusing UK feminists of being rightwing Xtian US fundamentalist funded for years. Sometimes it's funny, more often it's just fucking tedious.

Anyway.

'An organised anti-rights movement targeting the rights of women and LGBT+ people is growing in the UK. Over 60% of the organisations mapped have emerged since 2017, the vast majority gender critical organisations'

What the everloving fuck do they think they mean, here?

Feminists 'target' the rights of women? In terms of - feminists have fought long and hard for the rights of women? Yes, well done, Amnesty.

Then they whang on a lot about abortion and well funded US rightwing organisations, including religious groups, etc.

And then ...

'In fact, gender critical organisations only account for 2.5% of total expenditure but have been remarkably successful in realising their agenda through strategic litigation and campaigning.'

Will you ever actually use your brains, Amnesty?

The list at the end should give them a wee clue. Dozens of feminist organisations, almost all listed as 'informal', yet lumped in bizarrely with massive US anti abortion groups.

Idiots.

www.amnesty.org.uk/knowledge-hub/all-resources/report-a-growing-threat-the-anti-rights-movement-in-the-uk-july-2026/

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WrongKindOfFeminist · Yesterday 20:44

Too late, though. There will need to be more action from this. Its exposed something very rotten in AI.

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PrizedPickledPopcorn · Yesterday 20:46

On Facebook, it’s getting a very clear sighted response. 99% supporting JKR and Beirs’s place and disgusted with amnesty. And an occasional JKR is evil comment.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · Yesterday 20:51

WrongKindOfFeminist · Yesterday 20:20

Agree.

They may yet regret libelling Beira's Place in print, given it is funded by someone with access to excellent lawyers.

Also I kind of imagine her tolerating shit against her staff less than she tolerates it against herself.

Fridayyesterday · Today 01:17

I like this comment on X about the deleted post.

In which Amnesty jumps the shark
TempestTost · Today 01:44

Amnesty became a useless organisation when they moved from advocating for democratic process and freedom for political prisoners, to advocating for political outcomes.

They are just an organisation that looks to impose their own version of the good on other nations and political units.

WrongKindOfFeminist · Today 09:13

Fridayyesterday · Today 01:17

I like this comment on X about the deleted post.

Ita funny because one could scarcely imagine a more textbook case of actionable libel.

They make very clear and overt accusations - calling all gc groups 'anti rights' and conflating them with US rightwing organisations - that are easily shown to be untrue. They also have the clear intent and possible affect of harming said groups when they call directly for gc groups to be defunded.

Its almost as though there's someone in Amnesty trying to set it up like a pinata.

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · Today 09:29

WrongKindOfFeminist · Today 09:13

Ita funny because one could scarcely imagine a more textbook case of actionable libel.

They make very clear and overt accusations - calling all gc groups 'anti rights' and conflating them with US rightwing organisations - that are easily shown to be untrue. They also have the clear intent and possible affect of harming said groups when they call directly for gc groups to be defunded.

Its almost as though there's someone in Amnesty trying to set it up like a pinata.

More likely they have given too much freedom and power in the organisation to someone who is young, arrogant, ignorant about the way the world works and has spent too much time in an echo chamber.

MarieDeGournay · Today 09:32

Their big mistake may have been including the excellent, and combative, MBM in their list of baddies.

Other groups mightn't be equipped to fight back, but don't mess with a kick-ass 'policy analysis collective' [from their website] like MBM.

KTheGrey · Today 10:10

TempestTost · Today 01:44

Amnesty became a useless organisation when they moved from advocating for democratic process and freedom for political prisoners, to advocating for political outcomes.

They are just an organisation that looks to impose their own version of the good on other nations and political units.

Yes - they have done a 180 from advocating for political prisoners in repressive regimes to advocating for repression of women in liberal democracies. An age of wonders.

KTheGrey · Today 10:14

WrongKindOfFeminist · Today 09:13

Ita funny because one could scarcely imagine a more textbook case of actionable libel.

They make very clear and overt accusations - calling all gc groups 'anti rights' and conflating them with US rightwing organisations - that are easily shown to be untrue. They also have the clear intent and possible affect of harming said groups when they call directly for gc groups to be defunded.

Its almost as though there's someone in Amnesty trying to set it up like a pinata.

I would love to see Amnesty sued for this - how is attacking other people’s freedoms (to belief, speech, association) worthy of having its own charity? It’s a question we need answered.

WrongKindOfFeminist · Today 10:14

A movement that invades, undermines, upends and eventually destroys everything it touches.

All organisations are vulnerable to this capture and repurposing. I wonder how one can guard against it or if its possible to do so.

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RoyalCorgi · Today 10:28

I dare say they were relying on the fact that most of the organisations named were too impoverished to sue for libel. How they managed to forget that Beira's Place is funded by one of the richest women in the UK is beyond me, but an amusing illustration of how clueless they are.

And as a PP mentioned, this surely goes beyond their remit as a charity and into the realm of political campaigning. There's an explanation here of what charities are and aren't allowed to do:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/political-activity-and-campaigning-by-charities

Political activity and campaigning by charities

The rules for charities that want to support, or oppose, a change in government policy or the law.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/political-activity-and-campaigning-by-charities

Waitwhat23 · Today 10:28

MarieDeGournay · Today 09:32

Their big mistake may have been including the excellent, and combative, MBM in their list of baddies.

Other groups mightn't be equipped to fight back, but don't mess with a kick-ass 'policy analysis collective' [from their website] like MBM.

MBM have essentially been a much needed second chamber and provided the scrutiny which is lacking in Scottish politics.

They should be winning awards for their work, not being sneered at by an organisation who have lost ther moral compass.

Waitwhat23 · Today 10:36

On twitter, it has been funny to hear from the organisations who have not been listed and are humourously gutted that they have been missed off. I spotted the hashtag #mustbemoregendercritical

puyr · Today 10:36

haven’t they removed it from X now, after threats of being sued? I hope they get sued. They’re a fucking disgrace.

Tallisker · Today 12:43

The expression FAFO springs to mind.

WrongKindOfFeminist · Today 12:54

RoyalCorgi · Today 10:28

I dare say they were relying on the fact that most of the organisations named were too impoverished to sue for libel. How they managed to forget that Beira's Place is funded by one of the richest women in the UK is beyond me, but an amusing illustration of how clueless they are.

And as a PP mentioned, this surely goes beyond their remit as a charity and into the realm of political campaigning. There's an explanation here of what charities are and aren't allowed to do:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/political-activity-and-campaigning-by-charities

The whole gist of the report was a weak attempt to suggest that tiny, 'informal' grassroots feminist organisations were in fact bankrolled by massive rightwing Xtian US organisations.

So yes, tiny grassroots organisations are vulnerable and generally don't have access to legal support.

Amnesty appear not to have grasped that the women involved are often very well informed, qualified, tenacious, and not inclined to take bad faith attacks lying down.

The bubbles and echo chambers have really protected so many people from the consequences of their actions. I suppose this is how they create these mad and absurd fictions and think themselves justified in doing so - see just about ever single 'gender critical' court case so far.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4910748-court-casesjudicial-reviewsetetas

It doesn't tend to work in their favour in the long run.

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Abhannmor · Today 13:08

I stopped supporting Amnesia Ireland when they published a statement calling for Irish feminists to be denied access to media and political representation. So did many of my friends. This was an organisation founded to defend freedom of conscience, particularly for political prisoners.

For what it's worth I'm a socialist and agnostic. But if I was a practicing Muslim or Christian , surely I still have rights?

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