Sunderland Minster refusing to comply with Supreme Court ruling

[labtest57]

This is from their Facebook page today. No consideration for the women who do not want men in their spaces.

That is Greta T levels of performativeness.

Performativity?

Condescending wankers.

Why can't their 'oh so helpful' volunteers accompany the TiMs to the men's loos to keep them safe?

If they've got church volunteers willing to be toilet chaperones, why don't they get the men to accompany anxious transwomen to the gents'? That would be kind, inclusive, and actually in line with the law.

Finished typing and saw your post. Evidently great minds think alike!

It really is the obvious solution!

I assume they have the equivalent sign on the men’s loos?

Very good point

So bone-headed, it sounds more like some TV comedy sketch.

But perhaps nowadays, not so much.

The Rev Canon attended last years trans rights rally in Sunderland where she spoke about her trans son.

It's so often that, isn't it.

I would say her logic had left the building, but then she is a reverend, so that was always a nebulous concept to her. And now she has a nebulous dog whistle too.

I wonder if the church volunteers thought that this was what they'd be doing, when they signed up.

So if you’re a woman who has suffered abuse at the hands of a man (as many woman have) and feel unsafe in secluded mix sex spaces, you're firstly expected to locate a staff member, then indirectly or directly admit you feel uncomfortable in mixed sex loos, then ask if there is availability to escort you into the loo area where you might be dealing with urgent IBS or heavy period bleeding in the cubical…

Instead why not label the men’s toilets ‘unisex’ and allow the women a female only space.

Are there any comments about this on their Facebook page @labtest57 ?

I’m a bit disappointed the toilet supervision doesn’t come with a re-education session delivered through the toilet door whilst you do your business.

Agree. Isn't this the point where it should be recognised that men and women are not simply equivalent (not that thy are, of course, but that's the theory), but that women have requirements for privacy that simply aren't required by men. And yet our elected government continues to move in the other direction.

Yes. Majority in favour of it unfortunately.

Hmm, how many of them actually come from the area....

And what sort of reception would any dissenters get?

I noted 'sisters and brothers' in that order. When 'sisters' are men, they come first. Long live the patriarchy.

I'd assume most of them. Can't imagine people outside of Sunderland would even know it the Minster's existence.

FFS

It doesn't make sense though. They acknowledge that some women may feel "uncomfortable". But they can't take the next logical step as to why some women may feel uncomfortable?

I hope someone sues them because only men are welcome to use those toilets.