Do you avoid the bathroom if there is a transwoman?

[PeachyDaisy]

I’m going to an industry event next week and I know there will be a transwoman attending. Should I use the disabled bathroom to avoid an awkward encounter or just continue to use the women’s and hope not to run into them?

Actually, anger has provided women with a lot of useful things, the ability to stand up for ourselves being one, the right to vote being another.

Name-calling, however (IQ of a walnut... really?), not so much.

Yet another example of a seemingly-reasonable poster who has just been waiting for the right moment to claim "Aha! Bigotry! Gotcha!" instead of listening to what we are saying and why we are saying what we are saying. Do you think we haven't heard it all before? Every lame argument. Every silly insult. It really is so tiresome.

HOW do we tell the difference. You can't answer that. It's a fact that your misogynist Mens Rights Activist cult are losing the war. The fact is your hatefully narrow-minded misogyny is dying out, and feminists are winning. And you cannot tell us how we can tell the difference because you KNOW there is no way to tell. And that, is why you are losing the war. It's cowardice on your part. Because you know your ilk are dying out.

Mumsnet is declared as anti trans so enjoy your little echo chamber, but it’s not the feeling of the younger generations and they are ultimately the future.

Please, please explain
a) what 'genuine trans 'is and
b) how on earth it changes someone's sex?

False equivalences. I never said I hate all men. And I never said anything racist.

as a result of my trauma I have cptsd and frequently have panic attacks and meltdowns and disassociate.

I am entitled to a women’s single sex spaces (in the U.K.) for that reason. As are those who need it for religious and cultural reasons, reasons of privacy, dignity and decency. Reasons of women and men being entitled to a single sex space.

it has fuck all to do with hating all men or me being a racist and I see you.

Stop saying bathroom, it's toilet. Stop saying trans woman, it's a bloke wearing a dress.

The human species is evolving

I’m completely agog to find out what evolutionary changes to humans you imagine will result from men choosing to wear a bit of lippy or undergo some surgical/ chemical body modifications?

I think you're onto a forlorn hope with the 'you'll all be dead soon and then there'll just be women willing to have no rights and take their clothes off for men with issues, some of whom turn out to be really seriously criminally dodgy'.

Many of us as young women had issues with boundaries, and if you've been privileged enough to go through a decent school and university you probably haven't yet clocked the real issues. Get a bit older, gain some life experience, a few relationships under your belt and then have kids, and many will get it.

It's fine. Go and be cool with the guys. No one's stopping you. What you're moaning about is that while you hang out in the mixed sex space, there'll be women in the single sex space they have by law, not being forced to service men. As the price of access to public life. That's a bloody awful, misogynist, cruel and hateful view.

From what we understand about puberty blockers and experimental surgery, Darwinism may have more of a say in that.

And there we have it! The comparison to racism. So go on then, explain how women can know who is and pretending to have a trans identity and who is a man with a trans identity? Is there like some secret signal?

Or how women will evolve to love and embrace subordination, misogyny, abuse and exploitation.

AI sex dolls might, I'd stick with those.

@Plasticdreams You might want to see this. As each year passes, your dinosaur anti-womens handmaiden group are losing ground.

Why does reality offend you so much?

No

@Plasticdreams how dare you accuse me of being a racist.

There is nothing at all in what I said that gives you the right to say that.

tbf Anyone who equates feminism and racism doesn't understand feminism.

It’s that old question “what’s the difference between a man pretending to be a woman and a man pretending to be a man pretending to be a woman?”!

Further, @Plasticdreams , an LGBT lobby in America recently did surveys and they are dismayed and have admitted they have lost the war, even amongst Democrat voters. It's over. Feminism has won. Your echo chamber has been destroyed.

Two men are in court.

One completely and utterly believes he is in fact Abraham Lincoln. He demands everyone in the court to address him as 'Mr President' and to be treated as such.

The other says he is Abraham Lincoln because he thinks he'll get into a mental health facility instead of prison.

Which one is actually Abraham Lincoln?

Mumsnet is declared as anti trans

What, the entirety of Mumsnet? Well, that will come as a shock to some in the Litter Tray.

The younger generations, particularly Gen A, are showing signs of being distinctly bored with the whole "change your sex, let boys into your toilets and changing rooms" thing.

Because reality is transphobic. It keeps inserting itself into their dreamworld and shattering their illusions.

I suppose we might find out in about, oh, a few million years, give or take. Isn't that how long evolution usually takes?