Is there ANY concern among Trans Rights Activists for the health wellbeing of adolescents receiving gender affirming drugs that the findings of the Finnish study might be true

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You would expect Trans Rights Activists to be concerned about the physical mental health of gender questioning children, yet I haven't seen a single TRA express the slightest concern that gender affirming care might be causing harm to young kids, who they see as transgender. Not here, not on r/transgenderuk, not on x.
They are attacking the credibility of the study, but given its size and the very shocking findings, why aren't at least some of them expressing a little concern that there might be something in it? I mean, these are vulnerable kids, and they're taking really powerful drugs with major long-term consequences, and now it looks like there's evidence that it may be doing the opposite of what it's supposed to...
How could you not be concerned, whatever your agenda? They're kids!
Aren't trans rights activists interested in the right of trans kids to be safe and healthy?
Am I missing something?

That's a cool story. But you already know I am a 5'4" woman who weighs in the 120s and has been without any significant levels of testosterone since puberty.

I made the appointment to get refills on my existing prescription. I agree it is unhinged because he had access to records of my previous medicine use. But I'm somewhat used to misogynistic treatment from male doctors.

no you're a man

you may be a short man

you may be a slim man

you're still a man

i do wonder why you spend so much time here - I guess you like it for reasons

I’m confused @onepostwonder you say you transitioned in the 80s, but puberty blockers weren’t available til the 1990s, and no one was giving children HRT. So how exactly did you get hold of puberty blockers or cross ex hormones in the 1980s? You said you went through a female puberty in your teens? How?

No mate. Misogyny is the hatred of women, how can a male suffer misogyny? Or is that another female experience you are appropriating?

Thank you for your service.

I wonder who are the children with dysphoria and co-morbid psychiatric issues, and who are those without co-morbidities, and what other factors are common in each group ?

For example, homosexual male children who seem dysphoric are responding to a completely different set of internal drives from a heterosexual TIM adult or young adult who is seeking a narrative to explain what began as a sexual interest in women's clothing or in themselves as feminised sexual objects.

It would be really interesting to know how many male children presenting with dysphoria are homosexual vs heterosexual. It seems to me to be insane that Blanchard's typology has been thrown in the bin - I can imagine that effeminate boys who are under social/family pressure not to be gay are over-represented in childhood presentation compared to adult presentation. And are equally over-represented in the 'co-morbid psychiatric issues' group, for obvious reasons.

Does that information exist anywhere and did it inform the Finnish study? And what about sex - surely they're dividing by sex, since t's almost universally accepted that social pressures can create psychiatric disorders, and that girls and boys socialisations are completely different? And that this would have an impact on what I expect is an over-representation of neurodivergence in the girls group?

I understand whose interests have been served by the bundling together of these vastly different typologies but I'm surprised that their is not more work being done to challenge it, both at an activist level and an academic one (most of the latter I hope will look back on this era with absolute shame for how quickly they abandoned the most basic principles of science and materialism).

“What is different if I were to turn around and speak?”

so what?

You are now doing what is known as testing women’s boundaries. You are asking us, in a way, what is acceptable to us? This whataboutery has been labelled as the behaviour of predatory men seeking to find an angle that makes their behaviour acceptable to someone. It really does show you either lack the understanding of safeguarding principles or you understand and wish to ignore that they need to be applied to exclude you so will seek a way around them.

The relevant point is, in the UK female single sex provisions are for female people only and not any male person who wishes to find a way to be accepted as ‘female’ when they are not. You know you are not, despite all the attempts to justify that claim.

As had been said to you numerous times, the law excludes you from
single sex provisions for female people no matter how you plead, cajole or simply act to the contrary.

Did you read the post that was in response to? Or did you just think that was a great gotcha?

I was just observing that none of us are qualified to be specifying the conditions of medical healthcare for trans people.

WTF

How could you be menopausal?
You're a man FFS

It was referencing gynaecologists for men.

Which is nonsense, of course.

Don't you need a provincial health card to access 'free' healthcare in Canada?

You're a man.

What medical health care do transpeople require?

There was no 'hypogonadal female' range in the blood test.

yes, I specified resident. I sadly had to pay.

But you’re not female. Why would they be comparing your levels to females?

thank you for your service.

I see we have a new "that is your belief" 😂

Makes a change lol.

Nah. They're just special.

Seriously.