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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Views on this board being deliberately miscued

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DialSquare · 08/04/2026 20:02

Everyone knows that the majority view here is due to concerns about the erasure of female single sex spaces and words, children being caught up in an ideology when they aren’t old enough to consent (possibly leading to harmful hormones and/or surgery), female sports and awards being infiltrated/given by/to men, trans widows having their lives turned upside down and not supported but expected to support the stunning and brave husband etc etc. However, arguing against these concerns is not a good look so it’s much easier to shout “hatred” and “transphobia”.
Its so fucking tedious.

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IwantToRetire · 08/04/2026 20:42

DialSquare · 08/04/2026 20:38

We’ll have to agree to disagree on this.

Well look forward to lots of pointless whatabouterry threads.

Although if some enjoy spending their time on threads like that, which you encourage by responding to, that's it.

And you answer your own OP.

If it really was "tedious" you wouldn't engage.

So why bother?

Wearenotborg · 08/04/2026 20:42

AidaP · 08/04/2026 20:11

Given how almost every of those members here intentionally misgenders, refuses to accept pronouns and often even names, please press that doubt button for me on this post.

But of course this forum spent so much eating its own reassurances that harassment and transphobia is the "rational norm" and cannot be challenged under any circumstances, as that's just "ridiculous" and "against your truth".

Hilarious.

But at least we don’t advocate raping women with a splintery rolling pin. So theres that. I mean, we don’t advocate punching, killing and abusing women so I’d say we’re doing better at not being evil people.

Scout2016 · 08/04/2026 20:42

I am always suprised that
A) they bother at all when they must know that it's all been said before and they aren't going to change anyone's mind in their favour. All they will do is invite sunlight on their crappy arguements and honestly, is it worth it for the Good Ally feels buzz?
B) some of the ones who come on with their "I just don't understand, why all the hate" bullshit do actually seem to want to believe the crap they spout, and I think some may have convinced themselves it's true. But that's how faith works I suppose, it doesn't have to be logical.

borntobequiet · 08/04/2026 20:43

AidaP · 08/04/2026 20:11

Given how almost every of those members here intentionally misgenders, refuses to accept pronouns and often even names, please press that doubt button for me on this post.

But of course this forum spent so much eating its own reassurances that harassment and transphobia is the "rational norm" and cannot be challenged under any circumstances, as that's just "ridiculous" and "against your truth".

Hilarious.

I imagine that being fucked with a “splintery rolling pin” is trivial compared to being misgendered or wrong pronouned, in your eyes.

Of course, such a thing could actually kill a woman it was inflicted on.

Views on this board being deliberately miscued
IwantToRetire · 08/04/2026 20:43

Coatsoff42 · 08/04/2026 20:39

I dont mind the troll threads, they get a lot more posters than the specific threads. I think it’s always useful for people to see the nonsense points that get made, and a clear response, and it’s where a lot of people feel able to comment, even if they aren’t regular posters. The specific topic boards, especially the legal ones or the scientific paper ones are very niche and difficult to contribute to.

That assumes anyone reads them apart from those who have been enticed into taking part.

More responses doesn't mean most read.

DialSquare · 08/04/2026 20:44

IwantToRetire · 08/04/2026 20:42

Well look forward to lots of pointless whatabouterry threads.

Although if some enjoy spending their time on threads like that, which you encourage by responding to, that's it.

And you answer your own OP.

If it really was "tedious" you wouldn't engage.

So why bother?

Because reiterating my position is not only for the detractors, it’s for the lurkers too.

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Wearenotborg · 08/04/2026 20:44

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Coatsoff42 · 08/04/2026 20:50

IwantToRetire · 08/04/2026 20:43

That assumes anyone reads them apart from those who have been enticed into taking part.

More responses doesn't mean most read.

No, true, but to contribute to a gender discussion here is quite intimidating. I know I worried about getting my identity found out and struck off for years. I just think those threads are useful to get used to discussing gender things yourself in your own words, rather than always reading someone else’s thoughts. Thats my opinion anyway, I do still partly think the OPs on those boards are double agents as they are so ridiculous.

IwantToRetire · 08/04/2026 20:52

DialSquare · 08/04/2026 20:44

Because reiterating my position is not only for the detractors, it’s for the lurkers too.

That assumes anyone reads them other than those taking part.

Its come up on other threads that many users of FWR (and MN as a whole?) just dont have time to trawl through long threads.

I am sure many of them have absolute nuggest in them but for them to have any impact there would need to be some resume each day highlighting some post on one of the very long threads!

ILikeDungs · 08/04/2026 20:56

It is a bit infuriating when he comes onto these threads just to despoil them, but when any reader can see he has nothing, nothing at all, no arguments, just lies and attempts to make us feel bad for misgendering ffs, And violence. Always the violent acts.

Let him show us who he is. He has fun and we get vindicated.

BettyBooper · 08/04/2026 20:58

DialSquare · 08/04/2026 20:34

Yes!

Ooh thank you! That's exactly it! 😂

Hedgehogforshort · 08/04/2026 21:00

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I had occasion to intervene with the knock and run game on my street many moons ago near a chip shop that the teenagers frequented at lunchtime.

My neighbours were all elderly and it was very very unfunny.

I hung about the alley and chased them all down. All five foot nothing of me.

Suffice it to say they did not do it again.

this particular poster has a history of violence.

it is not the same as some trans identifying individual seeking to argue their position.

This poster has a menacing presence on the internet and has engaged in violent threats and allegations against Sarah Phillimore.

This is not a person who should be engaged with. Even though i did myself.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 08/04/2026 21:01

IwantToRetire · 08/04/2026 20:42

Well look forward to lots of pointless whatabouterry threads.

Although if some enjoy spending their time on threads like that, which you encourage by responding to, that's it.

And you answer your own OP.

If it really was "tedious" you wouldn't engage.

So why bother?

I use threads like that to vent, I also pick up a lot of info from the post that do respond to the ploppers, when they keep shoving they're fantasy science 'papers' on us, it's good to know there are very knowledgeable people who can prove they're talking through the arse.

It's also good to see that no matter how much they try they can't shut women up, especially on a forum that is for women to voice they're opinions on.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 08/04/2026 21:04

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AccidentallyWesAnderson · 08/04/2026 21:12

I’ve been deleted for correctly sex-ing a poster? I thought MN was over that nonsense.

Hedgehogforshort · 08/04/2026 21:13

HE reported you

DialSquare · 08/04/2026 21:14

Someone has their finger on the report button. Why not argue your point rather than report?

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AccidentallyWesAnderson · 08/04/2026 21:15

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Coatsoff42 · 08/04/2026 21:15

Fragile narcissism

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 08/04/2026 21:17

Fragile toxic masculinity

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 08/04/2026 21:18

I’m not a lurker per se, but I have found the troll posts interesting to see how other posters feel and refine my own views and understanding. They’re a good washing line to air views that might not otherwise have a space as they don’t necessarily merit inclusion in another thread as they’re too basic /someone else has already said it much better/ it’s not actually the topic of discussion but you want to get it off your chest and not lose your job

Hedgehogforshort · 08/04/2026 21:21

InSlovakiaTheCapitalOfCourseIsBratislava · 08/04/2026 21:18

I’m not a lurker per se, but I have found the troll posts interesting to see how other posters feel and refine my own views and understanding. They’re a good washing line to air views that might not otherwise have a space as they don’t necessarily merit inclusion in another thread as they’re too basic /someone else has already said it much better/ it’s not actually the topic of discussion but you want to get it off your chest and not lose your job

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What ?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 08/04/2026 21:27

Why is commenting that you had correctly sex-ed someone worthy of deletion @mumsnet?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 08/04/2026 21:29

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 08/04/2026 21:27

Why is commenting that you had correctly sex-ed someone worthy of deletion @mumsnet?

I’ve reported my own post so we’ll see why we’ve regressed back to 2021.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 08/04/2026 21:33

I was deleted and then the comment I made saying it was worth making the first comment was deleted, so I'm going for a hat rick on the same thread. 😂
I best say good night before I'm banished to the sin bin for who knows how long.