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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What's the deal guys?

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shadesOfTeal · 17/02/2026 21:23

I don't think this post is going to last long but what's the deal with hating trans women so much? I've been a women for 13 years of my life since 18 and it's never been a problem. Suddenly I'm not only talk of the town but also an evil man stealing everyone's rights away from them? I wasn't much of a boy as a kid anyway but. I just wanted to ask like what's the deal? Why do you hate the idea of me existing so much? What have I personally done to you that's been so bad? I feel like I need to be careful with my words because it'll be easy to accuse me of all sorts but I've done no harm to anyone. If you want to ask a trans woman some honest questions then please do, I don't usually talk about it in my day to day life and that, I'm pretty down to earth and will help you understand as much as possible. But I'd like to ask the people that hate me so much, can we ever get along? Please don't assume I'm what the internet and the media says I am though, I'm not like that at all! I just want us all to get on and I'm sick of having my life debated every 5 minutes.

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onepostwonder · 19/02/2026 11:44

AnSolas · 19/02/2026 11:41

Nope he is just following the usual path. Ill informed crap eg female blood tests which would be a clinical error if a medic actually applied the female benchmarks. He now move on and gets to talk to women about his new "sexy" bits.

Short bloke but full Jessica Rabbit mode.

new sexy bits? After 40 years? Thanks.

Helleofabore · 19/02/2026 11:45

And even the description of 'same size and shape' is misleading.

They are on a male shaped chest which means the body proportions will remain male.

onepostwonder · 19/02/2026 11:48

AnSolas · 19/02/2026 11:41

Nope he is just following the usual path. Ill informed crap eg female blood tests which would be a clinical error if a medic actually applied the female benchmarks. He now move on and gets to talk to women about his new "sexy" bits.

Short bloke but full Jessica Rabbit mode.

Oh and female benchmarks have been applied my whole adult life. Breast screenings have reported no abnormalities. Sex realism hasn't affected the medical field.

onepostwonder · 19/02/2026 11:49

Helleofabore · 19/02/2026 11:45

And even the description of 'same size and shape' is misleading.

They are on a male shaped chest which means the body proportions will remain male.

Your assumptions are wrong because you refuse to believe sex hormones profoundly control how a body develops at puberty, regardless of sex chromosomes.

MarieDeGournay · 19/02/2026 11:50

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 19/02/2026 11:42

Sometimes these men accidentally say something honest about how they really view women, as Captain ‘Penetration’ did on this thread and Hayton did with that ridiculous comment.

it always seems (ironically) to come down to sex for these men

This is a good example of 'Operation Let Them Speak' - this thread has been very revealing of a lack of knowledge, facts and just plain common sense.

I suppose that's to be expected, as the facts are on the 'sex realist' side [the clue is in the name] and the arguments are inevitably abstruse, irrational and 'fact-lite'.

Helleofabore · 19/02/2026 11:51

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 19/02/2026 11:24

<shudder>

as a pp noted, we’ve reached the ‘perv’ stage

The thing is, and I have now said this multiple times about this poster, they are so ignorant of female human biology that they simply think that if a breast is on a male person, it is exactly like a female breast if that male person 'does the correct protocol'. There is absolutely no fucking knowledge about what a female breast actually does and why it is actually different.

The ignorance of what they don't actually know yet confidently claim to have the knowledge is fuckwittery.

onepostwonder · 19/02/2026 11:52

MarieDeGournay · 19/02/2026 11:50

This is a good example of 'Operation Let Them Speak' - this thread has been very revealing of a lack of knowledge, facts and just plain common sense.

I suppose that's to be expected, as the facts are on the 'sex realist' side [the clue is in the name] and the arguments are inevitably abstruse, irrational and 'fact-lite'.

Mumsnet has shown me that the trans woman envisioned by sex realists are so male-typical in shape and size that you build a camouflage wall around me and those like me every time you warn people about the men.

onepostwonder · 19/02/2026 11:54

Helleofabore · 19/02/2026 11:51

The thing is, and I have now said this multiple times about this poster, they are so ignorant of female human biology that they simply think that if a breast is on a male person, it is exactly like a female breast if that male person 'does the correct protocol'. There is absolutely no fucking knowledge about what a female breast actually does and why it is actually different.

The ignorance of what they don't actually know yet confidently claim to have the knowledge is fuckwittery.

I've spoken of my experience, of my development. The strawmen you build do not reflect my knowledge or intent.

TheKeatingFive · 19/02/2026 11:55

onepostwonder · 19/02/2026 11:52

Mumsnet has shown me that the trans woman envisioned by sex realists are so male-typical in shape and size that you build a camouflage wall around me and those like me every time you warn people about the men.

It doesn't matter what anyone looks like.

You know you are a man, so do the decent thing and stay out of spaces that legally you have no right to and women don't consent for you to be.

Helleofabore · 19/02/2026 11:56

onepostwonder · 19/02/2026 11:49

Your assumptions are wrong because you refuse to believe sex hormones profoundly control how a body develops at puberty, regardless of sex chromosomes.

No. YOUR assumptions are wrong and you cannot conceive that women may understand more about their body parts than you.

I will repeat it again.

NO male breast will ever perform the way a female breast does because it is NOT a female breast. It lacks the receptors that will not just develop with estrogen supplements.

The female breast is also controlled by a female coded endocrine system as part of a female reproductive system.

No male person can have a female reproductive system and will never have the functionality of a female breast when it comes to having an interactive feeding system that allows the individual tailoring of milk for an infant's needs.

Can you please tell me what part of this do you not understand?

Hedgehogforshort · 19/02/2026 11:56

Gonna have to chuck in the prostate gland here which is not removed during “sex change surgery”

No female has a prostate.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 19/02/2026 11:56

onepostwonder · 19/02/2026 11:52

Mumsnet has shown me that the trans woman envisioned by sex realists are so male-typical in shape and size that you build a camouflage wall around me and those like me every time you warn people about the men.

I genuinely don’t care what you look like

in certain specific circumstances when sex is important, I care about your sex

the rest of the time I don’t care about your sex either

I never give two hoots about your gender

your sex is male. Proceed accordingly

CapacityBrown · 19/02/2026 11:57

Is sex isn't real then why the need to transition?

onepostwonder · 19/02/2026 11:57

TheKeatingFive · 19/02/2026 11:55

It doesn't matter what anyone looks like.

You know you are a man, so do the decent thing and stay out of spaces that legally you have no right to and women don't consent for you to be.

The difference between living a happy life free of random abuse from sex realists and constant threats of violence is very much dependent upon what one looks like.

gruit · 19/02/2026 11:57

MarieDeGournay · 19/02/2026 10:35

You're right - but sometimes it's useful to engage in 'Operation Let Them Speak'

On this thread, for instance, we had the OP instantly accusing us of hate, before we'd opened our mouths, and when one of us [meSmile] suggested they should look for the support that they need [OP had said they were 'scared' and I decided to respond to that, just in case they were genuinely distressed] they said they were just 'messing'.

Then onepostwonder took over, and has revealed big gaps in their knowledge of the law, science, etc., and above all an amazing ability to sail on regardless when they've got things totally wrong e.g. 'legal fiction'.

Obviously somebody as convinced of their own rightness will not be swayed by anything said by a bunch of niche obsessive sex realists, but it is useful to have their inaccuracies and dismissal of awkward things like 'facts' and 'reality', in writing for all to see.

Threads like this are a record of the uselessness of interacting in good faith with posters who start off with the attitude of 'you're all hateful bigots', and anything we say is taken as 'Look - proof that you're all hateful bigots with niche obsessions!'

yep, I stand corrected. Operation Let them speak is performing a spectacular own goal for the male who thinks he’s not, on this thread!

AnSolas · 19/02/2026 11:58

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Helleofabore · 19/02/2026 11:58

onepostwonder · 19/02/2026 11:54

I've spoken of my experience, of my development. The strawmen you build do not reflect my knowledge or intent.

You do not have a female body and you have no 'female experiences'. You can talk all you want about your development and it is irrelevant.

Your knowledge about the female experience and their biological is bordering on very uninformed.

What you intend is irrelevant as to what you are actually posting.

onepostwonder · 19/02/2026 11:58

CapacityBrown · 19/02/2026 11:57

Is sex isn't real then why the need to transition?

If blue isn't a colour, why the sky?

ArabellaScott · 19/02/2026 11:58

'Guys'

😂

onepostwonder · 19/02/2026 12:00

Helleofabore · 19/02/2026 11:58

You do not have a female body and you have no 'female experiences'. You can talk all you want about your development and it is irrelevant.

Your knowledge about the female experience and their biological is bordering on very uninformed.

What you intend is irrelevant as to what you are actually posting.

You have been arguing against your strawman this whole time.

NotAtMyAge · 19/02/2026 12:00

onepostwonder · 18/02/2026 21:22

i have no dog in the fight, as they say.

I wasn't planning on staying after my first couple of posts. But more recently, I've been trying to work out if there's a kind of sadism behind sex realism's need to call trans women men. I'm thinking a dopamine reward is involved.

Since when was stating a biological fact any kind of sadism? You haven't changed sex because it's a biological impossibility. However you present or whatever you do to your body, you will remain unchangeably male.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 19/02/2026 12:00

onepostwonder · 19/02/2026 11:57

The difference between living a happy life free of random abuse from sex realists and constant threats of violence is very much dependent upon what one looks like.

Are you implying that you have been threatened with violence by feminist women?

Helleofabore · 19/02/2026 12:01

I mean... the reduction of breasts to being 'just shape and size' being good enough to qualify for being 'female' is really plus ca change.

It is just more misogynistic trope.

gruit · 19/02/2026 12:01

biological facts are sadism 🤣🤣🤣🤣

onepostwonder · 19/02/2026 12:01

Helleofabore · 19/02/2026 12:01

I mean... the reduction of breasts to being 'just shape and size' being good enough to qualify for being 'female' is really plus ca change.

It is just more misogynistic trope.

Again, none of what i wrote resembles what you assembled above.

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