What's the deal guys?

[shadesOfTeal]

I don't think this post is going to last long but what's the deal with hating trans women so much? I've been a women for 13 years of my life since 18 and it's never been a problem. Suddenly I'm not only talk of the town but also an evil man stealing everyone's rights away from them? I wasn't much of a boy as a kid anyway but. I just wanted to ask like what's the deal? Why do you hate the idea of me existing so much? What have I personally done to you that's been so bad? I feel like I need to be careful with my words because it'll be easy to accuse me of all sorts but I've done no harm to anyone. If you want to ask a trans woman some honest questions then please do, I don't usually talk about it in my day to day life and that, I'm pretty down to earth and will help you understand as much as possible. But I'd like to ask the people that hate me so much, can we ever get along? Please don't assume I'm what the internet and the media says I am though, I'm not like that at all! I just want us all to get on and I'm sick of having my life debated every 5 minutes.

I would actually class this as DARVO

sure, let's go with DARVO instead of strawmen.

If you don't enter female spaces (illegally I might add) then who is going to abuse you?

Yes. there it is ... this is DARVO in action from a male poster.

If there is a simple question, why can't you answer it?

No one has ever and will never abuse me (illegally I might add) for using women's spaces. Men's spaces, before I transitioned, were completely different.

Anyway, what I wrote had nothing to do with my experience and everything to do with those who are perceived to be trans.

I don't owe you an answer.

Sunshine the Doctor/Nurse is not going to risk the professonal registration and personal financial liability from her/his profession by ignoring that your blood work will have to be benchmarked against a male.

Unless you have lied to each and every medic you have had dealings with you file will have a marker to say special care needed to manage your MH and your male biology.

If you have lied and the medic actually thinks you have a female body you medical checks are a fraud against the UK public health system as they are misleading and if things go wrong you will try blame the medic rather than take ownership the outcome of your choice of lying.

For clarity, You wrote this:

onepostwonder · Today 11:16

"My breasts are quite normal, healthy and female typical in composition, shape and size."

and this

onepostwonder · Today 11:07

"i highly doubt it. I don't know why sex realists reject the fact that some trans women fully develop breasts through all tanner stages."

Where have I strawmanned when I have talked about how no male people can actually have 'female' breasts?

Because it's such a simple question!

You claim that sex isn't real but if then had to have surgery and medical treatments to alter something that "isn't real".

People who expect the whole world to go along with their LARP are getting so boring now.

I've never had a PSA test, no one has ever mentioned it. A lifetime of estrogen use is very preventative against prostate cancer, so they tell me.

So you do know that you are male.

"Oh and female benchmarks have been applied my whole adult life. Breast screenings have reported no abnormalities. Sex realism hasn't affected the medical field."

Those have not been 'female' screenings. They are screenings that take into account that you are a male person who has been on estrogen supplements for decades.

Indeed, 'sex realism' material reality affects the medical field.

It's interesting when you hear from transsexuals from decades ago or from non-Western cultures. They fully accept biology and genetics, they don't pretend that sex isn't real and spend all the time convincing others that reality doesn't exist.

They want to live their lives differently, but don't go around demanding that everyone believes in a different reality.

There's one thing to demand respect and to be treated normally, it's quite another to demand that people reject reality.

You know what gruit, I think every person who believes that they are kind when they are supporting a male person to live in their identity should read these posts.

Maybe, just maybe, they will understand just how unkind it is in the long run.

I've never said sex isn't real.

Sex takes several real forms that influence how we live. One is the singular focus of sex realists and involves gametes and biological processes. The other forms are represented by and with gender culturally, within communities and between individuals as we all interact with one another through the day.

I changed my sex. The world moves me around as a woman. Simple.

Cancer pre-screening in men is only allowed under the UK public health system where there is a known risk factor.

A male pre-screening case will be based on the decision of a male to disrupt his natural hormone balance with drugs when side effects include the known higher risk factor of breast cancer.

If a male turns up as part of a public health female screening scheme the male is engaged in defrauding the system

There is no trans blood standard to my knowledge. There is no trans mammogram standard to my knowledge. I suppose there may eventually be a need to preserve sex purity?

The cycle is now in yet another round.

The cycle seems to restart with the deflection that posters are strawmanning and not replying directly to what is right there on the thread being said.

And we now start again with the 'I changed my sex' discussion. This one has been covered over multiple threads now and the claim is still one of subjectively constructed reality and using philosophical belief while dismissing established science and language.

Trans women have higher risk for breast cancer than men because they develop breasts that have female levels of risk. Trans women's breasts are women's breasts.

Humans are not clown fish.

Male humans remain male.

I never said there was a 'trans blood' standard.

There will be a male standard where anyone viewing the results should consider that the person is male and has once had testes, and now doesn't and has had large supplements of estrogen.

No need for it to be a 'trans blood standard'. Because this could apply to other male patients.