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Kelly v Leonardo Employment Tribunal 29th September 10am

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ickky · 25/09/2025 16:30

Hello

Don't know much about this case other than Naomi Cunningham is representing Ms Kelly.

If you want to observe send an email to

[email protected]

Subject line

Ms BM Kelly v Leonardo UK Limited Employment Tribunal – hearing Case number: 8001497/2024

Ask for the link and pin to observe.

State you are a member of the public and give your full name and the email address you will use to access the tribunal.

Anyone interested?

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PersonIrresponsible · 01/10/2025 10:00

Abominable Day's day isn't starting well....

I assume everyone else is WFTCHTJ.

MyrtleLion · 01/10/2025 10:01

From TT

Good Morning.
Today we will be tweeting from the employment tribunal of Maria Kelly v Leonardo UK (L).
She alleges harassment, direct & indirect discrimination. L, a leading aerospace company, has a policy permitting employees to use toilets accord to their gender identity.

This is Day 2, however yesterday was taken up with private case management. Today will be the start of the hearing.

A reminder that we post what we hear in good faith but do not provide a verbatim report.

Abbreviations:
C or MK - Claimant, Maria Kelly
NC - Naomi Cunningham, barrister for C
KW - Katy Wedderburn, solicitor for C
R or L - Respondent. Leonardo UK
ST - Susanne Tanner KC, barrister for R
J - Judge
P - Panel member
GC - gender critical
GI - gender identity

SST - Single Sex Toilets
SSS - Single Sex Spaces
EQA - Equality Act 2010
SC - Supreme Court

Others will become apparent and added to this list for future days.

The hearing should begin at 10am.

NebulousSupportPostcard · 01/10/2025 10:02

WFTCHTJ but will miss the start if it starts on time

GoldThumb · 01/10/2025 10:02

I’m Wftchtj. Who’s in?

CriticalCondition · 01/10/2025 10:03

WFTCHTJ

ThatPithySheep · 01/10/2025 10:05
Bored Cabin Fever GIF

I think I lose

NotNatacha · 01/10/2025 10:05

When we do join today, I hope the J will explain about yesterday. I wonder if the estimated time for the tribunal will stay the same.

Tribunal Tweets’ post of an hour ago, saying they will be tweeting today, has already had 6.3k views. That number is increasing quickly.

NebulousSupportPostcard · 01/10/2025 10:06

Boiledbeetle · 01/10/2025 07:41

😍😍😍

Fabulous @NebulousSupportPostcard fabulous!

Especially: (Conference Host) Take it easy (32 waiting in the lobby) (aah-ahh-ah)

TY but please! My favourite is:

(Mr Borthwick) It ain't what you do it's the time that you do it

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 01/10/2025 10:07

NotNatacha · 01/10/2025 09:58

@ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews , would you add me to the table, please?

I guessed 11:06 in a post at 14:19.

Thank you 🙏

Yep. 👍🏻

ickky · 01/10/2025 10:07

Morning all.

@NotNatacha I doubt the Judge will explain, we are the peanut gallery. 😁

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NebulousSupportPostcard · 01/10/2025 10:09

@ickky I understand why we cant have a laughing emoji reaction but "peanut gallery" really deserves one! 😁

NotNatacha · 01/10/2025 10:10

ickky · 01/10/2025 10:07

Morning all.

@NotNatacha I doubt the Judge will explain, we are the peanut gallery. 😁

There are observers in the tribunal room too, though, I think.

Perhaps they had a long wait in a real lobby all yesterday morning.

Boiledbeetle · 01/10/2025 10:10

I'm eating cake whilst I wait.

(Keeps fingers crossed for 10.27)

MyrtleLion · 01/10/2025 10:12

I'm going to make more tea. It's bound to start while I'm filling the kettle.

So this is a favour for you all.

katmarie · 01/10/2025 10:13

I am WFTCHTJ

katmarie · 01/10/2025 10:13

I reckon we will be in at 2.43 pm in time for a 3pm break

GCITC · 01/10/2025 10:14

I'm going for 11.46

sassanach · 01/10/2025 10:15

still no response to my emails requesting to join. If anyone does get in, let me know if you see any familiar faces there besides NC.

flopsyuk · 01/10/2025 10:15

I'm still in limbo. Been here since 9.35

NotNatacha · 01/10/2025 10:16

Peanuts, schmeanuts. I’m eating cashews.

They are unroasted and insulted, though. Would you like some?

(autocorrect changed a word above, but I’m leaving it)

I wonder if the clerk thought it was ready to start and began admitting people, and then another case management issue was raised.

ickky · 01/10/2025 10:17

@sassanach I did see the lovely Elaine Miller in the room yesterday.

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ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 01/10/2025 10:17

😂

MyrtleLion · 01/10/2025 10:18

Sorry, that didn't work.

I did my best.

ickky · 01/10/2025 10:19

It will time me out soon, I have been WFTCHTJ since 9.30am

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NebulousSupportPostcard · 01/10/2025 10:23

I am going to make toast and then do an online meeting. Please emote loudly in the comments so I know what I have missed on my return!

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