M&S apologises over trans employee in bra department (Telegraph)

[WimbledonWhites]

How many “cis” male members of staff do you suppose would approach teenage girls in the lingerie department?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/08/04/ms-apologises-over-trans-employee-in-bra-department/

https://archive.ph/nTDB9archive.ph/nTDB9

I saw a clip once where a man went and asked directions from some young teenage girls, surrounded by adults. A woman had a go at him because there is no reason for him to approach them, especially when there were adults, who could answer better.
men will always do this shit.

Back in the day a friend of mine was rejected by M&S for a customer facing role because she 'wasn't attractive enough'. M&S have been contemptuous of women for decades

When was this???

No insults or anything but I've never noticed M&S staff to be more attractive overall than average. They're just a normal bunch of people, with some inevitably being above or below average.

This is yet another example of the success of mangled language. If ‘transwoman’ hadn’t been invented, & this group of men were simply referred to as men (& he/him not she/her) it would be harder for people to gaslight themselves & others.

I don’t believe any of the apologists on here really believe the M&S man is actually a women, because he dresses differently & makes claims about himself. However, armed with a word that suggests there is a category of woman that includes men, wrong sex pronouns, & thought stopping phrases such as beKind, trans rights are human rights, we just want to pee, etc, it’s possible with lazy thinking to look virtuous & cool.

We’re talking about men, always. Dr ‘Beth’ Upton, ‘Isla’ Bryson, ‘India’ Willoughby, ‘Karen’ White, Eddie ‘Suzy’ Izzard. The trove of magic words has created ridiculous situations where people, often women, are arguing that it’s fine for a man to ask a female child if she’d like help with buying a bra, because of special men’s feelings.

I've written to M&S - complained about Ayr and also changing rooms.

I'm fed up with them.

Would have been in the mid 70s

https://x.com/doejane1971/status/1952678721111966182?s=46

has this been posted?

“I am the mum in this incident. I've seen a few comments saying I should go to the police. Social Work said the same. I tried. Police Scotland said my daughter should learn to say a polite no! Welcome to SNP Scotland in 2025 ”

So the teenager has to have resilience but not the man. The teenager has to not feel discomfort and push down that discomfort so a man can feel better.

This is fucked.

Sad thing is I’ve always wanted to support them as a mainstay high street British business. In fact I was all set to give them extra custom to help them recover from their recent Cyber incident.

But honesty, when a business treats your views, dignity and safety with such contempt over years and years, there comes a point when customer loyalty is destroyed. That’s what has happened to me, and I am telling all my friends and family too (who have been shopping at M&S down Bristol way forever).

And I damn well hope M&S are reading this thread to understand how angry their customers are.

How to piss off your mainstay customer base in one fell swoop.

At least M&S apologised and didn't try to claim transwomen are women. It feels like some sort of progress...

Ideally though the staff member should be sacked. Perhaps they will be.

Ohh - monitors.

How dare we suggest that the men mentioned upthread wearing a bright pink dress and pursuing the underwear section for breasts he doesn’t have may have additional motives?

Oh, this made me boiling mad.

Yep - we won’t be bothering with that or any other purchases M&S if you’re watching

This thread and the comments are disgusting. This poor employee did absolutely nothing wrong.

What crime exactly is it is that they would be reporting?

From what I read he shouldn't have been in the section and went over to the girl but didn't realise her mother was there. 6'2" male.

Allowing men to work in women’s lingerie is an odd stance from M&S overall.

Its core shoppers are, presumably, middle-aged women (and their daughters). Not the cool young things who believe there are 70 plus genders. Middle-aged women are less likely to tolerate men in their spaces and they are more likely to have money to spend. More so than the Reddit crew.

what do M&S gain from this?

What a low bar you set for male behaviour and female rights.

I don't know nolongersurprised. The fitting room in the ladies clothes section at my local store has large images of female models at the entrance - you'd think it was for women. Turns out it's unisex as anyone can use it. The men's section has images of men at the entrance. You'd think they were single sex but they're not.

u ok hun?

1982 I went for an interview there for a Saturday job whilst I was at school

My Glasses and the fact I wasn’t a Grammar school girl meant I didn’t get the job
the Grammar girls got the jobs at M&S. the Comp ones worked in BHS, like me

Shouldn't have been in the store offering help to customers? Do we have any confirmation this person was trans?

What did this person do wrong exactly,?

@Lun82 if you don’t understand the issue having read the thread, there’s nothing more to be said.