UCU being taken to tribunal over discrimination for 'gc' views

[ArabellaScott]

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/gender-critical-documentary-makers-take-ucu-tribunal

The filmmakers of 'Adult Human Female' are taking UCU to tribunal.

I'll try to find an archive copy.

NC saying that gender identity belief is probably not woriads. Won't allow for any dissent and flattens everything in its path.

Oh yes!!!! Go NC - this is what we have all been waiting for!

NC quotes: "Cabaret Against Hate in association with UCU."

Mentioned the difference in how KM talk was treated

Dogwhistles!

Dogwhistles used to shut pp down

Yes! UCU says that everything gender critical people say is a "dog whistle" and then everything they say can be shut down.

NC Dogwhistles. If everything they ever say can be characterised as meaning hate in practice, you can put them all in the box marked 'hate' and shut them down for that reason.

They usually come through as an OOF but as you read through it contain the details/link to join the tribunal

No evidence put forward as to who protesters were.

NC: Mr Brown makes a valiant attempt to wriggle out of….

He described it as ' our victory'

Saying women are adult human females, and transwomen are men, aren't dog whistles, they're actually what women are saying.

But they want to pretend it's a dog whistle for hate.

But when asked about the hate, no, we can't really see any hate.

It really does boil down to if you don't agree with this ideology, we are absolutely going to go off alarming but will never admit it

Buttars had no evidence of what harm might have been caused by showing the film

Light-hearted campaigning stickers, that were put up 4 years previously "cannot be said to constitute harm to any person of normal robustness".

Is it Schrodinger's hate?

Definitely there, we think, but we can't find it

NC R's evidence re harm was lighthearted stickers placed around city four years previously to screening. No harm from those stickers to a person of normal robustness.

[I had no idea during these proceedings that those stickers they kept going on about were years before.]

Totalitarian desire to control language

NC GI = Totalitarian desire to control other people's language. Hyperbolic reaction to what they call 'misgendering' is an eg of that.

I'm not a lawyer, but I know some of you are. I always listen to these tribunals and think that our side sounds coherent and sensible, while the TRA (in this case UCU) side sound bonkers. But I'm aware that tribunals deal in legal arguments, not just what sounds sensible.

So, if you are an expert in this area what do you think of the case?

I thought they claimed those stickers appeared around the time of the screening and indicated an upsurge in 'transphobic hate' but were they from years before?

That's what Tribunal Tweets said, and what I heard too. NC said lighthearted, which fits with the seahorses are horses etc stickers that were described during the tribunal.

TB - I thank you for your service to feminism.
Your exessive use of the word dogwhistle and your client's complete unreasonableness has led to the possibility of a judgement about whether GI is WORIADS.
Just knowing that's been raised as a possibility in an open court makes it a very happy day.

edited to add - I like rainbows and I'm taking them back as of now

NC Buttars and Wanggran [sp.?- can't be bothered to find] thinking they could discern the transphobic hate in a film that they hadn't even watched.

If you characterise women's concerns as Dogwhistles, there's nothing you can say that can't be characterised as hate.