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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
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Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/04/2025 11:48

By this logic all single sex toilets are “segregated” 🙄

nauticant · 02/04/2025 11:53

The usage of the term "trans feminine people" isn't aiding clear communication is it?

Merrymouse · 02/04/2025 11:53

nauticant · 02/04/2025 11:38

Counsel for UCU is now linking "adult human female" to MAGA.

Aargh - Just a search on mumsnet threads demonstrates that British feminists were talking about this issue, long, long before MAGA noticed it - or a google of articles by Sarah Ditum in that well known far right magazine, 'the New Statesman'.

Appalonia · 02/04/2025 11:56

Repeal the GRA!

Merrymouse · 02/04/2025 11:57

Also, as far as I know, I don't think political support for the US president is yet illegal in the UK?

Appalonia · 02/04/2025 11:57

nauticant · 02/04/2025 11:53

The usage of the term "trans feminine people" isn't aiding clear communication is it?

I don't think I've even heard that term before?

nauticant · 02/04/2025 11:57

Counsel for UCU has now managed to get hold of the genitalia stick to beat the witness with.

SidewaysOtter · 02/04/2025 11:58

Well if nowt else, this is more sunlight on the counter argument to GC feminism, and it boils down to “You’re all Nazis”.

SidewaysOtter · 02/04/2025 11:59

nauticant · 02/04/2025 11:57

Counsel for UCU has now managed to get hold of the genitalia stick to beat the witness with.

I’ve got quite the mental image now <shudders>

Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/04/2025 11:59

Appalonia · 02/04/2025 11:57

I don't think I've even heard that term before?

I’ve heard it, and it means “feminine” non binary males as well.

nauticant · 02/04/2025 12:01

Did counsel for UCU say yesterday he estimated that this cross-examination would take 90 minutes?

Appalonia · 02/04/2025 12:02

I love JKR is a transphobic dog whistle!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/04/2025 12:02

Are people not just allowed to support JKR and agree with her?

nauticant · 02/04/2025 12:03

Wayne came out with a storming response to UCU's "I love JKR" stickers mean transphobia.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/04/2025 12:03

nauticant · 02/04/2025 12:03

Wayne came out with a storming response to UCU's "I love JKR" stickers mean transphobia.

I think he’s doing really well with this nonsense.

nauticant · 02/04/2025 12:04

His record suggests he's spent decades arguing about Marxism, in a real sense and not in a virtue-signalling one.

SidewaysOtter · 02/04/2025 12:05

Appalonia · 02/04/2025 12:02

I love JKR is a transphobic dog whistle!

Everything is transphobic! EVERYTHING!

Are people not just allowed to support JKR and agree with her?

Of course not.

ThatPithySheep · 02/04/2025 12:11
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Oh dear, more dog whistles

Catabogus · 02/04/2025 12:12

mackerella · 02/04/2025 11:45

That would be more compelling as an argument if UCU weren't on social media explicitly linking the right to protest about Palestine with academic freedom (presumably also for university staff whose research doesn't directly touch on the Israel-Palestine conflict): https://bsky.app/profile/ucu.org.uk/post/3lkpzlsemcc2r

This case is explicitly about an academic teaching and researching on Palestine though

chilling19 · 02/04/2025 12:13

You can hear Wayne's exasperation- why am I being asked these inane questions?

nauticant · 02/04/2025 12:14

Now counsel for UCU is effectively saying that if Wayne and O'Neill have argued in favour of the protected characteristic of sex in an email, they should also have argued in favour of the protected characteristic of gender reassignment.

ThatPithySheep · 02/04/2025 12:15

What I find interesting is how the witness today and yesterday are able to formulate an argument much better than other academic witnesses we have heard from e.g. those in the OU case

Appalonia · 02/04/2025 12:15

The GRA is such a mess.

Go Wayne!😂

Catabogus · 02/04/2025 12:15

I’m not able to watch this one (probably thankfully for my blood pressure) - can anyone enlighten me as to what the J said yesterday about dogwhistles? How did he crack down on this?

nauticant · 02/04/2025 12:17

Effectively the judge said that she didn't expect the panel to be ruling on what dogwhistle means and so long discussions about the nature of the term were not helpful, especially in view of time constraints.

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