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NHS Policy Audit - working party

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KnottyAuty · 10/03/2025 13:02

Following on from Thread #23 of the Peggie v NHS Employment Tribunal. Anyone who wants to help with survey/audit of paperwork against the Equality Act protected characteristics please join here 😊

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Silversixpenny · 19/04/2025 19:44

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 19/04/2025 19:43

Oh no, it’s definitely an attack. Gird your loins all, we ride at dawn and all that.

😜

Hurrah! I'll open the gates for you to charge up the M6 Toll!!

AnotherVice · 19/04/2025 21:37

South East Coast Ambulance Service

NHS Policy Audit - working party
KnottyAuty · 19/04/2025 21:45

AnotherVice · 19/04/2025 21:37

South East Coast Ambulance Service

Just had a realisation - I suppose as things switch around the one advantage of all the Stonewall policies which talk about it being ok to have a curtain etc is that if it was OK for women for privacy, then it must be ok for trans women?! Could this ghastly mess actually work in women’s favour in the end?

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mrshoho · 19/04/2025 21:51

Ready to help when you reconvene!

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WeMeetInFairIthilien · 19/04/2025 23:26

😱
Wozers!
That update has just given me the shivers!

Well done!
Am so sorry I've not been able to help, work and family have been completely OTT, but I am rooting for you all.

YellowRoom · 20/04/2025 07:03

I can do a Midlands one today. Though i'm sorry i've lost track of what's outstanding

FarriersGirl · 20/04/2025 07:22

KnottyAuty · 19/04/2025 22:58

It may be a complete coincidence but I was asked to provide additional copies of our Scottish audit information to the EHRC on Thursday. Maybe us wims can help make a difference. Go vipers!

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/neil-gray-hauled-equalities-watchdog-35085401

Brilliant😀We've had quite a week! I have bought a necklace with a sparkly viper on it to celebrate.

Cantunseeit · 20/04/2025 07:45

Wowee! That’s awesome, well done everyone and specially @KnottyAuty for galvanising us and pulling it all together. Great encouragement for getting on with the rest

Bunpea · 20/04/2025 09:10

KnottyAuty · 19/04/2025 22:58

It may be a complete coincidence but I was asked to provide additional copies of our Scottish audit information to the EHRC on Thursday. Maybe us wims can help make a difference. Go vipers!

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/neil-gray-hauled-equalities-watchdog-35085401

That is excellent news!

It coincides with MSM releasing a WhatsApp conversation between Labour MPs (Angela Eagle, Chris Bryant, Steve Race, Chris Murray) plotting to derail whatever statutory guidance the EHRC plans to publish in summer.

Angela Eagle: ‘The ruling is not as catastrophic as it seems but the EHRC guidance might be’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14628401/Labour-Whatsapp-leaked-messages-transgender-court-ruling.html

A response from pro trans supporters at Westminster was to be expected. And the input from Mumsnet has never been more needed.

Leaked messages show Labour's fury at transgender Supreme Court ruling

The Government claimed to welcome the Supreme Court judgment - but the exchanges reveal the private fury on Sir Keir Starmer 's frontbench, with ministers planning to hold a meeting this week.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14628401/Labour-Whatsapp-leaked-messages-transgender-court-ruling.html

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 20/04/2025 09:19

To all those offering to audit Midlands trusts, gimme a second to drink my tea and then I’ll post an updated list of what’s still to go!

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 20/04/2025 09:46

umbel · 18/04/2025 18:25

@TwoLoonsAndASprout I have done some of these previously, though annoyingly I didn't keep a list. @KnottyAuty will know which. Off the top of my head, these ones are already covered:

Birmingham and Solihull MHFT
Leicestershire Partnership
University Hospitals Leicester
North Staffordshire Combined
Sherwood Forest Hospitals
Shrewsbury and Telford
Royal Wolverhampton
University Hospitals North Midlands

Hi @umbel - looks like we have all of those except Birmingham-Solihul and Uni Hospital N Midlands.

Someone’s offered to do Uni Hospital, so I would say don’t worry for the moment (though @KnottyAuty may get back to you with questions because the form has changed slightly).

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 20/04/2025 09:47

MadameBethune · 18/04/2025 16:06

I can do University Hospitals of Leicester NHS Trust

Ok, am caught up now - looks like @umbel has already done that one! Give me two seconds to update my list and you can pick another…

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 20/04/2025 09:51

teawamutu · 18/04/2025 16:14

I'll take the three Staffordshire and Stoke on Trent trusts for starters.

Looks like @umbel has done the first of those three (N Staffordshire Combined) but if you’re happy to do the next two that would be great.

Form coming to your DMs soon.

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 20/04/2025 09:52

FarriersGirl · 19/04/2025 07:35

Put me down for Nottingham Hospitals University NHS Trust and Nottinghamshire Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust.

All yours!

DM with form coming soon.

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 20/04/2025 09:54

Cantunseeit · 19/04/2025 14:44

Put me down for Northamptonshire Healthcare NHS Foundation Trusts please

All yours.

Will DM with form soon.

KnottyAuty · 20/04/2025 09:56

Brilliant thanks all!
and special shout out to @TwoLoonsAndASprout for being a fab organiser 😍

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TwoLoonsAndASprout · 20/04/2025 09:56

teawamutu · 19/04/2025 18:47

I'll take:

Midlands Partnership NHS Foundation Trust
Shropshire Community Health NHS Trust
The Robert Jones and Agnes Hunt Orthopaedic Hospital NHS Foundation Trust

Once I've done those 3 I'll happily pick up others.

You’re more than welcome to them - I also have you down for University Hospitals N Midlands - are you happy to do all of them?

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 20/04/2025 09:57

KnottyAuty · 20/04/2025 09:56

Brilliant thanks all!
and special shout out to @TwoLoonsAndASprout for being a fab organiser 😍

Headless chickener more like! Getting there - back in a second with updated list!

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 20/04/2025 10:02

UPDATED LIST (shout if you spot errors!!)

(strike through = done, italics = claimed)

Midlands region

Birmingham and Solihull

  • Birmingham Community Health Care NHS Foundation Trust
  • Birmingham and Solihull Mental Health NHS Foundation Trust
  • Birmingham Women’s and Children’s Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
  • The Royal Orthopaedic Hospital NHS Foundation Trust
  • University Hospitals Birmingham NHS Foundation Trust

Black Country

  • Black Country Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust
  • Sandwell and West Birmingham Hospitals NHS Trust
  • The Dudley Group NHS Foundation Trust
  • The Royal Wolverhampton NHS Trust
  • Walsall Healthcare NHS Trust
  • West Midlands Ambulance Service NHS Foundation Trust

Coventry and Warwickshire

  • Coventry and Warwickshire Partnership NHS Trust
  • George Eliot Hospital NHS Trust
  • South Warwickshire NHS Foundation Trust
  • University Hospitals Coventry and Warwickshire NHS Trust

Derby and Derbyshire

  • Chesterfield Royal Hospital NHS Foundation Trust
  • Derbyshire Community Health Services NHS Foundation Trust
  • Derbyshire Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust
  • East Midlands Ambulance Service NHS Trust
  • University Hospitals of Derby and Burton NHS Foundation Trust

Herefordshire and Worcestershire

  • Herefordshire and Worcestershire Health and Care NHS Trust
  • Worcestershire Acute Hospitals NHS Trust
  • Wye Valley NHS Trust

Leicester, Leicestershire and Rutland

  • Leicestershire Partnership NHS Trust
  • University Hospitals of Leicester NHS Trust

Lincolnshire

  • Lincolnshire Community Health Services NHS Trust
  • Lincolnshire Partnership NHS Foundation Trust
  • United Lincolnshire Hospitals NHS Trust

Northamptonshire

  • Kettering General Hospital NHS Foundation Trust
  • Northampton General Hospital NHS Trust
  • Northamptonshire Healthcare NHS Foundation Trusts Cantunseeit

Nottingham and Nottinghamshire

  • Nottinghamshire Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust FarriersGirl
  • Nottingham University Hospitals NHS Trust FarriersGirl
  • Sherwood Forest Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust

Shropshire, Telford and Wrekin

  • Shrewsbury and Telford Hospital NHS Trust
  • Shropshire Community Health NHS Trust teawamutu
  • The Robert Jones and Agnes Hunt Orthopaedic Hospital NHS Foundation Trust teawamutu

Staffordshire and Stoke on Trent

  • North Staffordshire Combined Healthcare NHS Trust
  • Midlands Partnership NHS Foundation Trust teawamutu
  • University Hospitals of North Midlands NHS Trust teawamutu
TwoLoonsAndASprout · 20/04/2025 10:28

Anyone who said they’d like to help, check out the updated list above and then claim a trust. Let us know on here which one so we can keep track of what’s still to be done. And then either I or @KnottyAuty will DM you with the link to the form.

And THANK YOU ALL! You vipers are amazing!

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 20/04/2025 10:29

FarriersGirl · 20/04/2025 07:22

Brilliant😀We've had quite a week! I have bought a necklace with a sparkly viper on it to celebrate.

Meant to say - that sounds delightful!! Would you be willing to share a link to where you got it?

YellowRoom · 20/04/2025 10:44

I can fo George Eliot

mrshoho · 20/04/2025 10:52

Thanks @TwoLoonsAndASprout I'll take the Lincolnshire Trusts.

teawamutu · 20/04/2025 13:38

Doing the Midlands Partnership right now. They were looking really good - no mention of trans, clear commitment to single sex accommodation.

And then I looked at what Ermine Amies turned up. And of course it's 'single sex unless a trans patient has a preference' and misgendering as a disciplinary matter.

Fuckers.

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