NHS Policy Audit - working party

[KnottyAuty]

Following on from Thread #23 of the Peggie v NHS Employment Tribunal. Anyone who wants to help with survey/audit of paperwork against the Equality Act protected characteristics please join here 😊

Hurrah!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce84054nqnyo

I do like where my weird brain went with this: picturing members of the EHRC pursuing NHS staff down the road, shaking SC judgements at them!

There’s a thread talking about NHS responses to the ruling:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5317262-what-my-nhs-trust-have-said-about-the-supreme-court-verdict

I think we should try to get the actual words of these emails - it seems like they might have all come from the same source. Would be interested to know what that source is.

It will be even better when you publish the results if you can show what each Trust's policies were before 16th April and then see what they have said about the Supreme Court ruling. See if they are all still singing from the same hymn sheet.

So we still have a lot of work to do!

I’m trying to adjust the Jotform. I had to do loads of fiddling and checking on the London data. So updating the form should help make it all a lot easier 🤞🏻🤞🏻 Hoping to post it later today

Apologies @KnottyAuty . I was on holiday and missed this.
I think I did Croydon and did look for FOIs. If you need me to look again I can do that - just let me know.

Just a thought, but perhaps it would be preferable to capitalise on current press interest by trying to get the story out now based on the London results, rather than waiting until every Trust nationwide can be researched?

Also that may put additional pressure on the NHS generally to work cooperatively with the EHRC?

As the other Trusts are investigated, local press may pick it up again.

I was thinking about this thread this morning. It is a good collective approach to capturing and understanding how many organisations are operating outside of the law. It could be a workable model for many sectors. It is also a solid archiving exercise so when people say “it wasn’t that bad, you’re misremembering” in a few years’ time the receipts are there. It was a great idea to make a start on this @KnottyAuty 👏

I've got a long weekend - I'm happy to put some time in to at least gathering the data for a region or something. It could be analysed at leisure, but if actually having it banked would be useful I'm in.

I think the plan was to attack the Midlands next, so as long as you announce on here which trust(s) you are looking at, I’d say go for it! There are specific things that we are looking for, but as a first pass try to find anything to do with single sex spaces and anything to do with transgender policies.

I am refreshing the Telegraph website every hour waiting for the London audit results to appear.... was told "this weekend" which hikes the anticipation when that means the 4 day bank holiday version!

@KnottyAuty has asked me to put up a list of the Midlands trusts (coming right up). She’ll be back in a bit to DM individual auditors links to the forms to fill out. NOTE: if you did the Scottish or London trusts, the forms have been updated for the Midlands, so please don’t use the old forms.

Ideally, can you pick one trust to start with, and then come back to pick more once that one is done - it just makes it easier to keep track of what is claimed and what is waiting to be claimed.

To claim a trust, just post on here which one you are claiming.

Think that’s it - shout if any questions!

Midlands region

Birmingham and Solihull

• Birmingham Community Health Care NHS Foundation Trust
• Birmingham and Solihull Mental Health NHS Foundation Trust
• Birmingham Women’s and Children’s Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust
• The Royal Orthopaedic Hospital NHS Foundation Trust
• University Hospitals Birmingham NHS Foundation Trust

Black Country

• Black Country Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust
• Sandwell and West Birmingham Hospitals NHS Trust
• The Dudley Group NHS Foundation Trust
• The Royal Wolverhampton NHS Trust
• Walsall Healthcare NHS Trust
• West Midlands Ambulance Service NHS Foundation Trust

Coventry and Warwickshire

• Coventry and Warwickshire Partnership NHS Trust
• George Eliot Hospital NHS Trust
• South Warwickshire NHS Foundation Trust
• University Hospitals Coventry and Warwickshire NHS Trust

Derby and Derbyshire

• Chesterfield Royal Hospital NHS Foundation Trust
• Derbyshire Community Health Services NHS Foundation Trust
• Derbyshire Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust
• East Midlands Ambulance Service NHS Trust
• University Hospitals of Derby and Burton NHS Foundation Trust

Herefordshire and Worcestershire

• Herefordshire and Worcestershire Health and Care NHS Trust
• Worcestershire Acute Hospitals NHS Trust
• Wye Valley NHS Trust

Leicester, Leicestershire and Rutland

• Leicestershire Partnership NHS Trust
• University Hospitals of Leicester NHS Trust

Lincolnshire

• Lincolnshire Community Health Services NHS Trust
• Lincolnshire Partnership NHS Foundation Trust
• United Lincolnshire Hospitals NHS Trust

Northamptonshire

• Kettering General Hospital NHS Foundation Trust
• Northampton General Hospital NHS Trust
• Northamptonshire Healthcare NHS Foundation Trusts

Nottingham and Nottinghamshire

• Nottinghamshire Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust
• Nottingham University Hospitals NHS Trust
• Sherwood Forest Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust

Shropshire, Telford and Wrekin

• Shrewsbury and Telford Hospital NHS Trust
• Shropshire Community Health NHS Trust
• The Robert Jones and Agnes Hunt Orthopaedic Hospital NHS Foundation Trust

Staffordshire and Stoke on Trent

• North Staffordshire Combined Healthcare NHS Trust
• Midlands Partnership NHS Foundation Trust
• University Hospitals of North Midlands NHS Trust

I can do University Hospitals of Leicester NHS Trust

I'll take the three Staffordshire and Stoke on Trent trusts for starters.

I’ll double check later when I’m on my laptop but @umbel may have already covered some of these. I’ll double check and score off the list.

And to help galvanise our enthusiasm for the task - here’s a link to a union rep in The Midlands expressing concern about problematic GC views:

x.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1904094734680817776?s=46

@TwoLoonsAndASprout I have done some of these previously, though annoyingly I didn't keep a list. @KnottyAuty will know which. Off the top of my head, these ones are already covered:

Birmingham and Solihull MHFT
Leicestershire Partnership
University Hospitals Leicester
North Staffordshire Combined
Sherwood Forest Hospitals
Shrewsbury and Telford
Royal Wolverhampton
University Hospitals North Midlands

Put me down for Nottingham Hospitals University NHS Trust and Nottinghamshire Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust.

I don’t know why a separate policy is required for this. There are many medical conditions which require significant time off for appointments, for example cancer or chronic autoimmune conditions. If I was an employee with a long-term condition and less favourable employer policies covering my medical condition I would sue for disability discrimination. Employers have beclowned themselves on multiple fronts by dancing to Stonewall’s tune, as well as increasing their liabilities.

Put me down for Northamptonshire Healthcare NHS Foundation Trusts please

@KnottyAuty I have sent you a PM on this topic.

I'll take:

Midlands Partnership NHS Foundation Trust
Shropshire Community Health NHS Trust
The Robert Jones and Agnes Hunt Orthopaedic Hospital NHS Foundation Trust

Once I've done those 3 I'll happily pick up others.

Nooo! Everyone defend the Midlands!!!

...oh...you mean NHS Trusts...

Not a viking-type invasion!! Late to this thread - ladies, you are doing fantastic work, a credit to our sex and your professions.

Oh no, it’s definitely an attack. Gird your loins all, we ride at dawn and all that.

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