Excellent exchange between Maya Forstater (MF) and Stephen Whittle (SW) re: deadnaming as an act of criminal harassment.
I can't upload screenshots (MN still having problems) and my security software blocks nitter. As a starter, MF quote tweets SW. (The thread is worth reading for those who can. MF meticulously responds on a range of topics. There's also an incident in there of SW offering to support someone in interacting with Macdonalds which may explain an earlier enquiry about a TransReddit claim about many "successes" in claiming against businesses.)
MF: Prof Whittle appears to be arguing individuals shouldn't be able to held liable for sexual harassment if their inappropriate behaviour was sanctioned by their employer. This is not what the Equality Act says.
QTs SW: 1. This is a a Civil claim for discrimination, not a Criminal Trial Dr Beth Upton did het job as instructed & is NOT on trial for anything I believe the Court should not have allowed Dr Upton to be named a co-respondent as Dr Upton is not the employer of Nurse Peggie /
2. Being neither the employer, or a provider of goods, services, housing or facilities to Peggie IMHO at a prelim hearing the Court should have insisted Upton was not named a co-respondent. Dr Upton is at most, a witness to the events, who followed the lead of NHS Fife
3. NHS Fife made a correct call in telling Dr Upton they should use the women’s facilities once she had permanently transitioned to living as a woman It is up to Peggie (P) to show that NHS Fife treated her differently from either - a man in their employment, OR /
4. - a person without P’s religious or other beliefs. As the provider of single sex facilities, NHS Fife wete within their right not to use any potential exemption contained in the Eq Act which MAY have allowed them to ask Dr Upton & other TP use alternative facilities /
5. It is up to P to bring a successful claim by showing that: - as a woman she was treated differently from a man & to her detriment Or - NHS Fife failed to take account of her belief - a belief that must be shown to be ‘worthy of respect’
6. A sex discrimination claim must fail. as presumably a trans man who had permantly transitioned would have been instructed to change in the men’s facilities. As for belief - is P’s belief ‘worthy of respect’ - maybe - Was NHS Fife informed. In advance … /
7. … by P that she held that belief? /maybe IMHO naming Dr Upton as a co- respondent was gratuitous & completely irrelevant to the claims made IMHO calling Dr Upton to give evidence was also entirely gratuitous. Her evidence was not relevant to any claim made for sex … /
8. … discrimination or for a claim made under ‘religious or other belief’ Nobody was claiming that Dr Upton was anything other than a trans woman That could & should have been confirmed at a preliminary hearing This case was not really about Peggie, it has been... /
9. … a way of publicly humiliating Dr Upton Whatever the tribunal finds IMHO we have seen the truth about those who hold GC beliefs P & her barrister Naomi Cunningham both are part of the GC ‘sex realists’ attack on our right to exist
10. They are determined to destroy TPs right to autonomy & self determination, equality, respect, privacy & dignity
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