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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NHS Fife tries to silence nurse

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Hoardasurass · 13/10/2024 09:36

So as has been mentioned on threads about the Darlington nurses a nurse is sueing NHS Fife over its trans staff policy.
The poor nurse was forced to get changed infront of a man in the female changing facilities, when she complained about it she was 1st told to change in a cupboard if she didn't like it, then they tried to bully her into swapping shifts so she didn't work with the man in question (she wouldn't), then they wanted her to move hospital (again she refused) so then they suspended her without pay for months until her solicitor got involved and now they are trying to gag her by insisting that the court case (starts in February) must be held in secret (I wonder why) and will be in crt next month asking to restrict reporting on the case.

This case is really important in Scotland because the trans staff policy that's going on trial in this case is the Scottish government's own policy used in all public sector organisations in Scotland and works on self id. So when this case is won it will finally kill the Scottish government's self id policy in all public bodies

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/nhs-fife-fights-secret-hearings-33877891?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

NHS Fife fights for secret hearings in trans woman in female changing room case

NHS Fife is facing landmark legal action by a nurse suspended after complaining about a transwoman in a female changing room.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/nhs-fife-fights-secret-hearings-33877891

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GCITC · 04/02/2025 10:18

I count over 70 observers.

waves to BoiledBeetle

nauticant · 04/02/2025 10:18

Nice to see you ickky.

Boiledbeetle · 04/02/2025 10:19

Judge entering

GCITC · 04/02/2025 10:20

Judge leaving...

Boiledbeetle · 04/02/2025 10:20

GCITC · 04/02/2025 10:18

I count over 70 observers.

waves to BoiledBeetle

👋. Sound is atrocious. They are just sorting themselves out at the moment.

MorrisZapp · 04/02/2025 10:21

Reporting Scotland made an incomprehensible hash of this story last night. Anyone uninformed on this debate would have thought two women in a changing room didn't like each other. Even my DP had to have me explain it to him that the doctor in question was a man. It isn't obvious in the reporting.

ickky · 04/02/2025 10:21

You too @nauticant 👋

LipbalmOrKnickers · 04/02/2025 10:22

If yesterday is anything to go by, sound will remain crap throughout. Earphones at the ready...

Boiledbeetle · 04/02/2025 10:22

I see the wonderful women of For Women Scotland are watching.

ickky · 04/02/2025 10:23

Ahh Jane Russell, which tribunal was it that she was council on before?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/02/2025 10:24

Both Forstater and Bailey

themostspecialelfintheworkshop · 04/02/2025 10:24

Is JR's argument that if the NHS is following out of date / wrong legal advice that treats women as second class citizens that's fine?

Boiledbeetle · 04/02/2025 10:25

I can't hear them properly so I'm screwed, I'm going to have to rely on Tribunal Tweets.

Over 70 people observing.

themostspecialelfintheworkshop · 04/02/2025 10:26

Ah the using transmen (i.e. female sex people) as human shields for abusive men has started.

chilling19 · 04/02/2025 10:27

👋

ickky · 04/02/2025 10:27

Does anyone know if there has been a link provided to the witness statements or the bundle in this hearing?

chilling19 · 04/02/2025 10:27

Sound is poor

HousesofHolbein · 04/02/2025 10:28

What point was she trying to make by suggesting that a hypothetical trans man is changing in a hypothetical changing room and a hypothetical male nurse complains?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/02/2025 10:30

I personally would support any man who complained about being made to change with women. Men deserve privacy and dignity too.

Boiledbeetle · 04/02/2025 10:30

Currently being asked about Christmas eve interaction with Beth having just come out of the toilet

GCITC · 04/02/2025 10:30

My sound is OK, but I do need to wear headphones.

Yes, the argument seems to be that NHS Fife was just following policy. The question is whether that policy is legal.

Signalbox · 04/02/2025 10:30

Hoardasurass · 04/02/2025 09:46

There's a drs code to and it says similar to the nurses code so how was this dr following it

Exactly. Hopefully when NC cross examines BU she will ask him if he has followed the doctors standards of practice in relation to treating colleagues with respect.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/02/2025 10:30

She was trying to show that Peggy hadn't been discriminated against on the basis of sex against a male comparator in same situation

seXX · 04/02/2025 10:31

HousesofHolbein · 04/02/2025 10:28

What point was she trying to make by suggesting that a hypothetical trans man is changing in a hypothetical changing room and a hypothetical male nurse complains?

she's trying to say that there is no sex discrimination as a man in the same position would have been given the same advice of 'deal with it and stop being transphobic'

ickky · 04/02/2025 10:31

@HousesofHolbein That they would treat a bio man the same if the situation was reversed, so it is not direct sex discrimination.

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