NHS Fife tries to silence nurse

[Hoardasurass]

So as has been mentioned on threads about the Darlington nurses a nurse is sueing NHS Fife over its trans staff policy.
The poor nurse was forced to get changed infront of a man in the female changing facilities, when she complained about it she was 1st told to change in a cupboard if she didn't like it, then they tried to bully her into swapping shifts so she didn't work with the man in question (she wouldn't), then they wanted her to move hospital (again she refused) so then they suspended her without pay for months until her solicitor got involved and now they are trying to gag her by insisting that the court case (starts in February) must be held in secret (I wonder why) and will be in crt next month asking to restrict reporting on the case.

This case is really important in Scotland because the trans staff policy that's going on trial in this case is the Scottish government's own policy used in all public sector organisations in Scotland and works on self id. So when this case is won it will finally kill the Scottish government's self id policy in all public bodies

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/nhs-fife-fights-secret-hearings-33877891?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

I think it is getting more interest, and the reporting seems a lot more informed as well.

What previous form does this judge have?

I was going to add a screenshot of this tweet but I see MN have turned off adding images.

Gill, womb haulier and gorgon EG & @Gillian_Philip • 1h
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Judge Kemp? He did not consider my account of my emotional breakdown (following recent widowhood and my sacking) to be fully genuine, and was inclined to disbelieve the psychiatrist who diagnosed me.

Upton just hasn't behaved in any way as someone who's vulnerable and distressed by the reality of his sex and SP wanting a single sex space (which incidentally is her right under the law). He's behaved like a bully determined to lord it over all the other staff and bend the entire hospital to servicing his needs first and patients only a remote second.

How is taking notes about a personal dispute in A&E not medical malpractice? Poor patients.

Trying to police female behaviour down to eye contact is not a good look. Sounds like attempts at coercive control to me, backed up by the hospital HR.

It was briefly mentioned on 6pm R4 news last night. Didn't catch PM to see Evan Davies reaction.

He's probably not happy as Larry as he wants them in there with him, feeling uncomfortable and either unwilling participants in watching him get undressed or being watched undressing by him. It's gross.

He's also on there whipping out his mobile phone to record contemporaneous notes on how she reacted to his intrusion. Again, gross.

Too many people in this situation have enabled this person to validate his grievance and not one of those people has said, when they could easily have, "can you not see how this makes you look?"

You only have to look at comments on twitter and BTL on news articles about this to see that the general public view does not support women being forced to be present while a man undressed, or being forced to get undressed or deal with their menstrual mishaps in the presence of a man who makes them feel uncomfortable.

If he is a vulnerable, anxious person, they could have protected him from the inevitable and very public backlash and dearth of public support.

Bloody hell. Poor Gillian. What a slap in the face??

Bringing up the code of conduct and insinuating that not staying 100% compliant and nice when feeling vulnerable and being sexually harassed is in some way a failure of your nursing duty is just revolting.

It would in no way be acceptable to have a nurse in the witness stand in a trial where she is a victim of domestic abuse or assault and say, "but were you kind? Hmm"

A nursing code of conduct presupposes a stable context in which to operate, it's not a mandated set of behaviours in every single situation you find yourself in in life FFS.

Ain’t that the truth. Maybe some men who are happy (or deliberately set out) to make women feel embarrassed and intimidated want to force the victimised women to look at them in order to enjoy the distress in their eyes. Maybe it is even the Piece de Resistance of their power over the women. Maybe you’d keep a diary or notes of your project and sadly note you didn’t get to enjoy their distress fully.

Bad women not allowing themselves to be completely victimised by men who wish to do so! Don’t they know they have no rights?

The nurses code of conduct also refers to people she is in a position of power over - patients. Not a colleague granted considerable power by his employer who is ignoring her boundaries.

There's a drs code to and it says similar to the nurses code so how was this dr following it

Judges really need to do the freedom programme so they're really clear about coercive control dynamics. Because this seems clear as day to me.

My emotional support cat and I are ready for today's submissions.

Same, strapped in here. Good luck to SP today, I hope she knows we're all with her in spirit.

WFTCHTJ

No support cat for me, they've both gone back to bed.

I'm not sure you're going to win friends with this ...

Are you saying that only trans people who have had significant surgical intervention have the right to claim access to "aligned" facilities? And that they have to disclose their medical and surgical history in order to claim those protections?

Are you saying being trans is a medical condition?

Are you saying being trans is a mental health risk?

I think all of these statements would be seen as gatekeeping or pathologising to some.

You can surely see that even your own take is contradictory and problematic?

I do very much hope NC will bring this up.

https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets/status/1886698491147104343?s=19

https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets/status/1886716903671898201?s=19

"Observers have not yet entered the courtroom so there will be an unknown delay in proceedings this morning.

We'll keep you updated as far as is possible."

Whilst we wait, a quick abbreviations reminder

From Tribunal Tweets:

https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets/status/1886699358982213792?s=19

Abbreviations
C/SP - Claimant, Sandy Peggie
NC - Naomi Cunningham, C’s barrister
MG - Margaret Gribbons, C’s solicitor
R/Board - first respondent, Fife Health Board
R2/DU - second respondent, Dr B Upton
JR - Jane Russel, barrister for respondents

AW - Adam Watson, solicitor for respondents
J - Employment Judge Alexander Kemp
ET - Employment Tribunal
P1, P2 - additional panel members
CR - changing room
AE - Accident & emergency department

PCP – provision, criteria or practice is a rule, policy, or practice that can put people at a disadvantage based on certain characteristics. Used in employment law to assess whether an employer's actions create different outcomes for employees based on their characteristics.

GC or SR: belief that biological sex is important,
immutable and different from gender identity
TWAW - transwomen are women (refers to male persons who claim a female gender identity)
TMAM - transmen are men (refers to female persons who claim a male gender identity)

CX - complaint
DX - disciplinary procedure or process
IX - investigation
Panel members sitting with EJ,
P1 - CM Russell
P2 - L Brown.

https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets/status/1886719338045964787?s=19

"Observers now being admitted, expect to begin soon."

@Boiledbeetle and others thanks for the updates. I got a log in but decided not to, my work today is boring but with a deadline and I’d never be able to focus on either!

I wonder how many court hours are lost due to things not starting on time.

we're in

I'm in...

I'm in.

Picture is on. Couple of people still waiting in lobby