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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Tommy Robinson and Let Women Speak

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eatfigs · 04/06/2024 11:40

I've only read about this on Twitter so there's a chance this is being taken out of context, but it looks like Let Women Speak were part of Tommy Robinson's rally in London this past weekend:

https://x.com/shularises/status/1797585248580186511

https://x.com/GappyTales/status/1797611080212205988

https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1796931835823362392

This doesn't sit right with me at all. I've been to LWS events and thought I knew what they were about. I've argued against the guilt-by-association tactics that some activists use against LWS when male intruders have turned up to the events, like the neo-Nazis in Melbourne.

But here we see the opposite, LWS deliberately attending far-right fascist marches. This seems inexcusable to me.

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TinselAngel · 05/06/2024 12:18

This is so akin to religion- attend one non approved rally and you're damned, and none of the children of the participants there deserve saving as their parents are the wrong religion.

oldwhyno · 05/06/2024 12:35

false flag operation

DrSpartacular · 05/06/2024 12:42

I've said before I've been "unpeaked"

Eh? So you did believe TWAW/TMAM, then you didn't, and now you do again?

AlisonDonut · 05/06/2024 12:48

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LarkLane · 05/06/2024 12:49

When I was a young loony leftie I used to go to all sorts of rallies to see what was being said and who was saying it. A tactic as old as time used across the political spectrum.

That's how you know what people are saying outside your own bubble. So you can respond accordingly if you want to get your own point over. Although robust and honest dialogue is a lost skill to the tra.

Smears seem to be the way to operate for some obsessed posters.

Tony Benn being quoted this morning by Lippy, amongst other perspectives. Tony Benn eh? That well known goosestepper. <sarcasm>
https://x.com/terfasaurus/status/1798295995731865719?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Datun · 05/06/2024 12:50

Fucking hell. A black lesbian feminist fighting for women's rights gets hounded off Twitter, and look who applauds it.

CassieMaddox · 05/06/2024 12:59

Datun · 05/06/2024 12:00

Cassie, has it never occurred to you that the people you're slagging off don't give a flying fuck what you think? That your demand for a 'charitable explanation' of her movements could not be more risible?

Not to mention the crushing irony of you telling off a black lesbian feminist because you don't like Tommy Robinson 😁

A woman you wouldn't even know of if she didn't 'retweet KJK' - the ultimate crime!

Noone gets a pass for being far right, it's not the privilege Olympics.
And as much as she "might not give a fuck" neither do I.

I used to follow Lippy when I was on twitter so you are actually wrong about that - partly why I am shocked.

But you know, make me the problem not supporting Tommy Robinson.

CassieMaddox · 05/06/2024 13:02

TinselAngel · 05/06/2024 12:10

"Normal people" don't attend Tommy Robinson rallies

And then the left wonder why they lost the red wall Confused

I'm not "the left". I'm not going to pander to far right racists, rewarding tantrums never works.

Honestly. This is next level on here. "Don't slag off Tommy Robinson fans, the Red Wall don't like it". Yuck.

CassieMaddox · 05/06/2024 13:04

TinselAngel · 05/06/2024 12:13

Not a believer in free speech then?

Not when it comes to inciting racist hatred, like TR does, no.
You do know that's actually against the law?

Plus the irony of bringing up "free speech" when KJK leaflets are being used to shut down free speech in schools and censor reading materials because of "the cult".

I'm hiding the thread again. Like I said, illuminating and I want nothing to do with far right apologism. Yes this is actually scolding.

illinivich · 05/06/2024 13:04

Giving out safeguarding leaflets to peopld isnt 'far right'.

CassieMaddox · 05/06/2024 13:08

DrSpartacular · 05/06/2024 12:42

I've said before I've been "unpeaked"

Eh? So you did believe TWAW/TMAM, then you didn't, and now you do again?

No. I think TWAM. I've been "unpeaked" in that rather than being pro-GC and writing off people's concerns as "TRA influenced", I now agree with some people there are elements of the GC movement that are extremely concerning, and damaging to women.

CassieMaddox · 05/06/2024 13:08

illinivich · 05/06/2024 13:04

Giving out safeguarding leaflets to peopld isnt 'far right'.

Attending far right rallies is though.

Stop ostriching.

Hepwo · 05/06/2024 13:09

The ghastly Brighton feminists strike again. Told you they are horrible people.

If I were Aja I would just block and ignore as they are a lot of sanctimonious air heads. Let's hope she gets back on X.

This is what you can expect once Labour are elected, non stop viciousness.

I expect at the moment they are all in a rage because Kemi has done what Labour won't do, yet again proving that they have no influence over Labour who will always prefer to keep the lefty men happy first. Impotent rage. What a bunch of losers they are.

BackToLurk · 05/06/2024 13:10

Datun · 05/06/2024 12:50

Fucking hell. A black lesbian feminist fighting for women's rights gets hounded off Twitter, and look who applauds it.

I’m not applauding anyone get hounded off Twitter, but I did not have you coming out to bat for identity politics

Hepwo · 05/06/2024 13:13

BackToLurk · 05/06/2024 13:10

I’m not applauding anyone get hounded off Twitter, but I did not have you coming out to bat for identity politics

Like Datun, I think we can all be a little agog at the left's complete inability to stick to their own painfully contorted values.

TinselAngel · 05/06/2024 13:15

I've long thought that leftists who are particularly vocal about anti racism do it largely as an excuse to bully people, given we all do our best not to be racist.

Etiketten · 05/06/2024 13:17

Who is the "we" in we all do out best not to be racist. There are lots of racists who are certainly not trying their best not to be. They believe in racism.

NotAllowed · 05/06/2024 13:21

PeppercornMill · 04/06/2024 19:38

Don't know why all neo-Nazis would be GC. Many of the pioneering sex change surgeons were the top doctors within the Nazi regime and advised the SS.

This is historically incorrect. The Institute of Sexual Science in the Weimar Republic was opened in 1919 by Jew, Magnus Hirschfeld. It was closed down by the Nazi party in 1933 and all its materials burned for being immoral.

LarkLane · 05/06/2024 13:21

I'm hiding this thread again.......................
...........but I'll be back in a mo to tell everyone how pure and right on I am and how much I'm obsessed with KJK and how wicked you all are for giving leaflets out at any rally I don't approve of.

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 05/06/2024 13:32

I see the issue of ensuring children have age appropriate reading material (or 'censorship' ) has been raised again.

I don't know why my previous comment was deleted - I said that those who disbelieve the kind of materials children are being exposed to in schools should check out safe schools alliance and transgender trend.

Children are not adults, they need adults to make some decisions for them. Pretending they are adults and therefore able to consent to adult decisions is a TRA tactic (and also some even less savoury demographics such as PIE/MAP enthusiasts.

No I'm not saying these 2 groups are one and the same, for the hard of thinking).

Posting about this 'censorship' in response to comments about free speech really isn't a gotcha.

As I've said numerous times on these (suddenly prolific) KJK threads, let's discuss what she's done, not what she hasn't.

All the exaggeration paints a picture of very bad faith.

LarkLane · 05/06/2024 13:33

https://x.com/terfasaurus/status/1798329960324837614?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
The only group who has driven me rightwards is the left. It is their behaviour over the past 8 years, offline, online wherever you look. Their piety. Their stupidity. Their downright boorishness. They're vandals; literal vandals. Rome is burning while they throw open the gates.

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https://x.com/terfasaurus/status/1798329960324837614?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

TinselAngel · 05/06/2024 13:34

LarkLane · 05/06/2024 13:21

I'm hiding this thread again.......................
...........but I'll be back in a mo to tell everyone how pure and right on I am and how much I'm obsessed with KJK and how wicked you all are for giving leaflets out at any rally I don't approve of.

I shall return shortly for the 3pm scolding

MalagaNights · 05/06/2024 13:35

CassieMaddox · 05/06/2024 13:08

No. I think TWAM. I've been "unpeaked" in that rather than being pro-GC and writing off people's concerns as "TRA influenced", I now agree with some people there are elements of the GC movement that are extremely concerning, and damaging to women.

That's fine.
You can choose to disagree with those people.

Thank you for informing us.
I hope you now feel better.

Could we have your GC Movement membership card back now though please?

(If there was a GC Movement membership I'd never have been given a card!
Does that actually mean I'm purer than Cassie? As I was never part of the racist adjacent movement 😁!)

RebelliousCow · 05/06/2024 13:40

Just looking at the last page of this thread, I'm glad I never bothered earlier on.

DrSpartacular · 05/06/2024 13:45

CassieMaddox · 05/06/2024 13:08

No. I think TWAM. I've been "unpeaked" in that rather than being pro-GC and writing off people's concerns as "TRA influenced", I now agree with some people there are elements of the GC movement that are extremely concerning, and damaging to women.

Aah, right, you're re-defining [un]peaking then?

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