Thread 2: A corpus-assisted discourse analysis of linguistic transphobia on Mumsnet

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At fewer than 20 posts left, time for part two.

Thread 1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5057460-a-corpus-assisted-discourse-analysis-of-linguistic-transphobia-on-mumsnet

Site Stuff thread that tipped off MNHQ: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/site_stuff/5057903-mumsnet-corpus

Terfy poems in audio book form would be fantastic.

The less popular uni in Brum
Did some stuff that was really quite dumb
They scraped conversations
Till Justine’s Alsatians
Bit them quite hard on the bum.

MIDNIGHT POEM
I wandered lonely as a terf
Who changed her name from thread to thread
Distracted when her writing flowed
Forgot to take herself to bed

Eden Palmer and Nicci Mcleod
On transphobia were really quite loud.
Till they put on Eventbrite
Some “TERFS are all BAD” shite
Surprise! Oh, it pissed off the crowd!

Who'd have thought, and it's a pity,
A place of learning, a university
Would demonstrate it's no utopia
By accusing Mumsnet of transphobia
The bastards are really quite shitty!

Late to this. Is someone live tweeting?

No, it's been cancelled.

Ah, thanks. I looked on the Aston Uni website - as well as Eventbrite - and couldn't find it. No time right now to read long threads in search of info, but was there any statement from Aston? Any info about the researcher who was going to give the talk?

Interested in how talks like this impact on gender critical female students at Aston.

@NewNameIRL , those last four lines: 'odd big dot too / but what / the hell / good oh', got me thinking more deeply about style. If one posted only in simple, monosyllabic words, would that hinder the scrapers' poster-identifying process more effectively?

eg: So, as one does, I went to look and found this site which I thought might help: https://www.liveabout.com/one-syllable-word-writing-exercise-examples-1277745

In it, the author says that a YouTuber analysed one of Donald Trump's 2015 pre-election tweets and found that 172 of the 220 words (ie 78%) were only one syllable. Do you think that if we all deliberately upped our monosyllables to that percentage or even much higher, we might stand a chance of the AIFL's (or any other people scraping here's) research reaching the conclusion that FWR had been invaded by Trump - a highly confusing outcome😁? Thinking outside the (sand)box here.

That would be fun to see.

Yes, it would. Why had I not thought of this last week?

Could we not sprinkle in the odd covfefe?

The quotations from Mr Dodgson will have helped with this.

And I might start not correcting my many typis.

we might stand a chance of the AIFL's (or any other people scraping here's) research reaching the conclusion that FWR had been invaded by Trump

I expect they basically think that anyway.

I think typos/misspellings can help id a writer's style.

Trump being pro women's rights would be an interesting interpretation

I am not Trump, I am Spartacus

It's interesting thinking up and applying consistent idiosyncrasies for each name: a little list of rules covering syntax, grammar, spelling, favourite words, and punctuation for each identity. Then occasionally you can break your rules, double-bluff the system, and inject a random mistake. Or if you're bored just run your draft text through a randomly chosen AI summariser:-

The speaker discusses using a small list of rules for each name, covering syntax, grammar, spelling, words, and punctuation, and occasionally breaking them to inject a random mistake. They also mention using an AI summariser for a more engaging experience. [Bit meta: AI summarising using AI!]

Problem is, my multiple-personalities are starting to stack up and there's a danger I'll forget who is who. I might need to construct a database (in a notebook, disguised as something else, kept under lock and key, and stored somewhere hard to find). 😀

I thought that I would try a paraphrasing tool on one of my old posts.

Original post:

'Then I had a frisson of excitement that felt like having found a way to bypass open channels of communication with the French resistance.'

Listen very carefully, I shall say this only once...

'Think of ChatGPT and how totally correct and sense-making its output isn't.'

So true. I have far more to do with AI generated content than I would like and the bollocks it comes up with is quite stunning.

What the paraphrasing tool came up with (😂):

' also I had a titillation of excitement that felt like havingset up a way to bypassopenchannels of communication with the French resistance.'

hearveritablyprecisely, I shall say this onlyformerly.

Think of ChatGPT and how completelycorrect and sense- making its affair isn't.'

Sotrue. I've far further to do with AI generated content than I would like and the bollocks it comes up with is relativelystunning

😂
And there's a lot of potential for new usernames contained in that revision as well!

🤣
hearveritablyprecisely, I shall say this onlyformerly.

Now I have a vision of Trump attempting to play John Finnemore's 'Words of One Syllable' game and seeing how long he can get away with it.

You cross out on mumsnet with two hyphens. Some of your morse will have been turned into crossing out.

hyphenhyphenDCathyphenhyphen

DCat

wonderful
thanks
that explains it

tbh i was fine
about the confusion
since
purpose
was sabotage

but glad
mystery
solved

can crossout more now

FlippinEk wyms! Youse bin bizzy. Larst toime eye Teak thyme orf.

Queery fer u clever 1s

Iz a "sand box to play in"
Code
4a
Litter
Tray?

Cuz bofe r ful ov shyte

@GCLabRat
is that you
name changed
on purpuss
or by acident

or have the gerbls stolen yr acct

or ru some1 else
whose got good at
copying your
way
of
riting

nuffin feels safe anymore
very
big
sighh

ps
you are rite about sandbox

I know say di task dey great an di challenges plenti, but wit di support of FWR an evribodi, we go get dia wit Aston.