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Thread 2: A corpus-assisted discourse analysis of linguistic transphobia on Mumsnet

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VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 22/04/2024 23:22

At fewer than 20 posts left, time for part two.

Thread 1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5057460-a-corpus-assisted-discourse-analysis-of-linguistic-transphobia-on-mumsnet

Site Stuff thread that tipped off MNHQ: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/site_stuff/5057903-mumsnet-corpus

A corpus-assisted discourse analysis of linguistic transphobia on Mumsnet | Mumsnet

^By Aston Institute for Forensic Linguistics^ ^It has been suggested that the forum-style parenting website Mumsnet is a hub for ‘gender-critical’...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5057460-a-corpus-assisted-discourse-analysis-of-linguistic-transphobia-on-mumsnet

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RainWithSunnySpells · 27/04/2024 13:29

'Think of ChatGPT and how completelycorrect and sense- making its affair isn't.'

I want to know who ChatGPT is having an affiar with.
Mrs ChatGPT, - if you are reading this - LTB!

FeckOffAstonUniversityDoxingDepartment · 27/04/2024 13:53

JanesLittleGirl · 26/04/2024 21:50

So sc-rapists. Taking without consent.

Wryly (yet angrily) amused at the thought of The Aston Institute for Forensic Linguistics adding sc-rapist to the violated MN corpus they hold prisoner in their airgapped Brummie basement.

NonLinguisticRhetoricIsMyKryptonite · 27/04/2024 15:12

DeanElderberry · 26/04/2024 15:20

Regular women eh? Not cis, just regular? I suspect it doesn't mean predictable every-28-days-ers either.

This was an extract from something written in 1972, the introduction of making women a subclass of women hadn't been implemented then (or not in this document, anyway).

Winnading · 27/04/2024 15:23

IcakethereforeIam · 27/04/2024 09:55

I think typos/misspellings can help id a writer's style.

Can we try another language? Morse code? Flag signals?
Actually another language sounds like a plan as they have different rules.
Peasant French?

Chersfrozenface · 27/04/2024 15:28

There were some very funny threads in Franglais and Germanglish on MN some time ago.

Jegateaudoncjesuis · 27/04/2024 15:36

J'essaierai parler en français mais je ne peux pas le faire très bien.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 27/04/2024 15:37

Je comprends bien !

Jegateaudoncjesuis · 27/04/2024 15:38

Vraiment! Je ne sais pas quoi je veut écrire.

Jegateaudoncjesuis · 27/04/2024 15:40

J'ai besoin de petits emoijis avec les berets.

DeanElderberry · 27/04/2024 15:45

NonLinguisticRhetoricIsMyKryptonite · 27/04/2024 15:12

This was an extract from something written in 1972, the introduction of making women a subclass of women hadn't been implemented then (or not in this document, anyway).

I realised that, and was interested that the writer already wanted to 'other' women (and play divide and rule games between groups of women) but had not at that stage formulated the language to do it with.

NewNameIRL · 27/04/2024 16:16

Winnading · 27/04/2024 15:23

Can we try another language? Morse code? Flag signals?
Actually another language sounds like a plan as they have different rules.
Peasant French?

tried morse
earlier
failed
cos of
crossingsout

looked up semafore
seemed worse
shame

can
do
semafore
irl

francais
possible
latin
jamais
another fail

BIWI · 27/04/2024 16:17

Je suis bon at franglais, si that vous aider?

AstonUniDataScraperWankers · 27/04/2024 16:30

NewNameIRL · 27/04/2024 13:19

@GCLabRat
is that you
name changed
on purpuss
or by acident

or have the gerbls stolen yr acct

or ru some1 else
whose got good at
copying your
way
of
riting

nuffin feels safe anymore
very
big
sighh

ps
you are rite about sandbox

Naaz notmee. Iz sum ovva ratz innit? Feevin ma styyl! But fanx fur dat.

Jegateaudoncjesuis · 27/04/2024 16:35

Peut être.

Les gens de l'université d'Aston en utilisant nos mots, ils prenent notre culture sans authorisation. Ils comportent comme les vieux Europeans qui ont trouvé les autre pays. Puis ils ont pris les choses qu'ils ont voulu.

misscockerspaniel · 27/04/2024 16:51

Mais Google Translate comprende-elle la Franglais, n'est pas?

Chersfrozenface · 27/04/2024 16:54

misscockerspaniel · 27/04/2024 16:51

Mais Google Translate comprende-elle la Franglais, n'est pas?

Je vais prendre un crochet de boucher.

JanesLittleGirl · 27/04/2024 16:59

Deux bierres pression silver plate?

purplebootlace · 27/04/2024 17:01

THE NAMING ON MUMSNET (a warning to scrapers)

The Naming on Mumsnet’s a difficult matter,
It isn’t just one of your sandboxy games;
You may think at first I’m as mad as a hatter
When I tell you, each poster has HUNDREDS OF NAMES.
First of all, there’s the name she chooses to register,
Such as Mary, or Caerwen, Gill, or Elaine,
Such as Anya or Bridget, Jade or Sangita —
Each is a sensible ordinary name.
There are fancier names if she craves variation,
Some to be serious, some to play games:
Such as Delphine, Octavia, Zelda, Petunia —
But all of them sensible, practical names,
But I tell you, a Terf needs those names quite particular,
Names which are numerous and help her to hide,
Else how can she publish and be a contributor,
And broadcast her knowledge, with facts on her side.
Of names of this kind, I can give you a surfeit
Such as @Boiledbeetle , @Winnading , or @Chersfrozenface,
Such as @JoyousAsOtters, or else @GCLabRat
@RedToothBrush , @NotLarkLane or @purplebootlace.
But above and beyond there’s still billions left over,
And those are the names that you never will guess;
The names no forensic research can discover—
But EACH TERF HERSELF KNOWS, and will never confess.
When you notice M-N-ers in profound meditation,
The reason, I tell you, resides in their brains:
Their minds are engaged in rapt contemplation
Of the great, inspirational, thought of new names:
Their ineffable effable
Effanineffable
Highly original lists of more names.

[With thanks to ‘The Naming of Cats’, in Old Possum’s Book of Practical Cats by T S Eliot]

If I left you out it was because of trying to find names that fit. It wasn't intentional!

Chersfrozenface · 27/04/2024 17:01

misscockerspaniel · 27/04/2024 16:51

Mais Google Translate comprende-elle la Franglais, n'est pas?

Pas tres bien.

J'ai putté un morceau de Franglais de M Kington dans Google Translate et il n a pas comprehendé liberté comme liberty!

Winnading · 27/04/2024 17:30

Wish I'd said Flemish now, I'm having to use Google to translate. Sigh.

DrTWETMIRF · 27/04/2024 17:40

Caecilius est in horto. Caecilius in horto sedet. Grumio est coquus. Coquus in culina laborat
O
S
T
Mus
Tis
Nt

Je voudrais beacoup de chocolate

Donde esta el papel hygienico

我叫 DrTWETMIRF

Chersfrozenface · 27/04/2024 18:03

laborat? Or lab rat?

BIWI · 27/04/2024 18:05

我的名字是BIWI, 但我觉得这表明了我的身份!

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