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JKR exposing Scottish hate crime laws for what they are

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LargeSquareRock · 01/04/2024 12:14

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1774747068944265615?s=61&t=NHDSDk1MaF98_GOtcuLi0Q

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StarlightLime · 01/04/2024 16:33

potato57 · 01/04/2024 16:29

You do know that Ghislaine Maxwell stripped girls down and got involved in the massaging and beyond, right?

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To reiterate, I would have nothing to fear from her if I encountered her in a public toilet.

Nobody is actually disputing women can be sexual predators too. They generally work in conjunction with men, though. And their numbers are far fewer.

mrshoho · 01/04/2024 16:33

potato57 · 01/04/2024 16:21

I don't think anyone actually cares whether spaces are "women only" or not. Do I care if there's a convicted rapist in my space, yes - it's irrelevant what their sex or gender is, it's the fact they're a convicted rapist. Stopping trans people from using the same public sink space as me doesn't help me if there's a lesbian sex offender in there.

It's just something else for people to rage about so they can feel sanctimonious and be distracted from their own shitshow lives.

Speak for yourself and please do not dismiss the views of women who wish to protect single sex spaces. Speaks volumes about you tbh.

JKRismyPatronus · 01/04/2024 16:34

potato57 · 01/04/2024 16:21

I don't think anyone actually cares whether spaces are "women only" or not. Do I care if there's a convicted rapist in my space, yes - it's irrelevant what their sex or gender is, it's the fact they're a convicted rapist. Stopping trans people from using the same public sink space as me doesn't help me if there's a lesbian sex offender in there.

It's just something else for people to rage about so they can feel sanctimonious and be distracted from their own shitshow lives.

I care. I don't want to share single sex spaces with men.
If there is a female sex offender in the toilets I would have a good chance of fighting her off. I would not be able to fight off a man no matter how he identified.

Artesia · 01/04/2024 16:34

D*o I care if there's a convicted rapist in my space, yes- it's irrelevant what their sec or gender is...
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Clue- their sex will always be male. Rape is legally defined as penetration with a penis.

Anonymousthoughtcriminal · 01/04/2024 16:34

WallaceinAnderland · 01/04/2024 16:00

Police Scotland said it had not received any complaints over the posts.

Try turning it off and on again.

Sir. The police dog ate my homework.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 01/04/2024 16:34

potato57 · 01/04/2024 16:21

I don't think anyone actually cares whether spaces are "women only" or not. Do I care if there's a convicted rapist in my space, yes - it's irrelevant what their sex or gender is, it's the fact they're a convicted rapist. Stopping trans people from using the same public sink space as me doesn't help me if there's a lesbian sex offender in there.

It's just something else for people to rage about so they can feel sanctimonious and be distracted from their own shitshow lives.

😂🤣😂 is that the best you’ve got?

my life is bloody brilliant, I still don’t want men in my single sex spaces

And only men can be rapists in UK law

TWETMIRF · 01/04/2024 16:34

Why do you feel that the feelings of penis people are more important than vagina people potato? Also, why do we have spaces for vagina people and penis people, and then other spaces for penis people and vagina people?

I am taking inspiration from all the places that have replaced the word woman with menstruators, birthers etc with my phrasing. It's inclusive don't you know?

BackToLurk · 01/04/2024 16:34

potato57 · 01/04/2024 16:21

I don't think anyone actually cares whether spaces are "women only" or not. Do I care if there's a convicted rapist in my space, yes - it's irrelevant what their sex or gender is, it's the fact they're a convicted rapist. Stopping trans people from using the same public sink space as me doesn't help me if there's a lesbian sex offender in there.

It's just something else for people to rage about so they can feel sanctimonious and be distracted from their own shitshow lives.

Presumably you use the men's as often as the women's then

lifeturnsonadime · 01/04/2024 16:35

potato57 · 01/04/2024 16:32

I'm from a middle eastern background and these women's lives are already limited. By their own families. By not being allowed to leave the house without their husbands. By being given endless work at home so they stay there. It's not some random trans person in a public toilet that's stopping them living their lives, it doesn't even get to that stage.

That doesn't mean most women want to share women's single sex spaces with men. No matter what their gender identity is.

Leave women alone.

Decent men get this and stay out because they actually respect women. This includes some men who identify as trans women.

lonelywater · 01/04/2024 16:35

potato57 · 01/04/2024 16:29

You do know that Ghislaine Maxwell stripped girls down and got involved in the massaging and beyond, right?

Edited

Yes, everyone knows that. They also know about the likes of rose west and myra hindley. That proves what, exactly? a very small proportion of women are wrong un's. The overwhelming majority of sex offenders (to the tune of 98 %) remain men-thats why they need keeping out of women only spaces. But you know this anyway, so what are you playing at?

BackToLurk · 01/04/2024 16:37

potato57 · 01/04/2024 16:29

You do know that Ghislaine Maxwell stripped girls down and got involved in the massaging and beyond, right?

Edited

Oo is this where you demonstrate how vanishingly rare female sex offenders are by knowing their individual names. That's one of my favourite 'I don't think that post proves what you think it does'

Anonymousthoughtcriminal · 01/04/2024 16:37

TWETMIRF · 01/04/2024 16:34

Why do you feel that the feelings of penis people are more important than vagina people potato? Also, why do we have spaces for vagina people and penis people, and then other spaces for penis people and vagina people?

I am taking inspiration from all the places that have replaced the word woman with menstruators, birthers etc with my phrasing. It's inclusive don't you know?

It's not potato, it's potato57. There's 56 better potatoes ahead of this one!

Waitwhat23 · 01/04/2024 16:39

Runningupthecurtains · 01/04/2024 16:27

It's always the sinks/ toilet cubicles that are used as an argument as to why it doesn't matter. Never DV shelters, hospital wards or rugby scrums. No idea why 🤔

It's always fucking toilets and the tedious predictability of the TRA bingo sheet.

When pressed on whether they believe that women should be incarcerated in the female prison estate with male convicted sexual offenders, which has and continues to happen in Scotland, then they tend to go a bit quiet.

Or when asked how they feel about women self excluding from rape crisis services because all the services are mixed sex despite the single sex exemptions allowed in the EQA2010.

Or given specific names - Karen Black, Isla Bryson, Paris Green, Katie Dolatowski, Tiffany Scott, Andrew Miller etc etc etc.

They just focus on the toilets....

TWETMIRF · 01/04/2024 16:39

Ah but potato57 may identify as the best potato. 57 can 1 much better than 1 can

CruellaSeville · 01/04/2024 16:40

potato57 · 01/04/2024 16:21

I don't think anyone actually cares whether spaces are "women only" or not. Do I care if there's a convicted rapist in my space, yes - it's irrelevant what their sex or gender is, it's the fact they're a convicted rapist. Stopping trans people from using the same public sink space as me doesn't help me if there's a lesbian sex offender in there.

It's just something else for people to rage about so they can feel sanctimonious and be distracted from their own shitshow lives.

Firstly, millions of women and men DO care, so don't presume to speak for everybody.

Secondly, you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself for making a comparison between men and lesbians in this way. Show me the statistics where lesbians have spent millennia raping, torturing and killing women and girls.

And the talk of sharing spaces is utterly hollow. Sex segregated spaces were created to enable women and girls to actually be able to take part in public life. It enables us to have lives outside of the home. To have safe places to go when we need to. Why do you think organisations are still pushing for women and girls to have safe sex segregated toilet facilities in the global south? Because it significantly reduces their risk of being assaulted.

Maybe do some homework before waxing lyrical about a subject that you clearly have absolutely no knowledge about? And do not presume to speak for the rest of us.

Boiledbeetle · 01/04/2024 16:41

potato57 · 01/04/2024 16:21

I don't think anyone actually cares whether spaces are "women only" or not. Do I care if there's a convicted rapist in my space, yes - it's irrelevant what their sex or gender is, it's the fact they're a convicted rapist. Stopping trans people from using the same public sink space as me doesn't help me if there's a lesbian sex offender in there.

It's just something else for people to rage about so they can feel sanctimonious and be distracted from their own shitshow lives.

Many women care about women only spaces.

And what are rapists before they are "convicted rapists"? Are they not still rapists? or do you not care that you are possibly sharing spaces with them? Because a transwoman had as much likelihood of turning out to be a rapist as a man does, you know because transwomen are actually men, and we don't let men in our women only spaces. Why do you think one special group of men should be allowed access to women's spaces?

potato57 · 01/04/2024 16:41

Boiledbeetle · 01/04/2024 16:41

Many women care about women only spaces.

And what are rapists before they are "convicted rapists"? Are they not still rapists? or do you not care that you are possibly sharing spaces with them? Because a transwoman had as much likelihood of turning out to be a rapist as a man does, you know because transwomen are actually men, and we don't let men in our women only spaces. Why do you think one special group of men should be allowed access to women's spaces?

Source on the numbers on that please. A real source.

CruellaSeville · 01/04/2024 16:42

@Waitwhat23 my favourite is "Well I share a toilet with my husband and sons so what's the problem?" I guess the response of "Does that mean that you'd be happy to share a bed with every man you meet seeing as you happily share a bed with your husband?" is not what they're looking for...

TWETMIRF · 01/04/2024 16:43

I am guessing that the MOJ source will be classed as not a proper source. It will be posted in 3, 2, 1

UniversalAunt · 01/04/2024 16:44

If JKR were a political party at the next General Election, I’d vote for her.

Few of the current incumbents & wannabes have talent, have made their own money, know their arses from their elbows & have no need to be coached about how to answer ‘what is a woman?’.

CruellaSeville · 01/04/2024 16:44

@potato57 why don't you look for sources yourself instead of expecting us to do the work for you? Or are you just so used to relying on emotional manipulation and nonsense in your day to day life and you thought it would work here?

Theeyeballsinthesky · 01/04/2024 16:44

My understanding @TWETMIRF is that there is literally no acceptable source to TRA unless it’s pink news or stonewall

Waitwhat23 · 01/04/2024 16:45

CruellaSeville · 01/04/2024 16:42

@Waitwhat23 my favourite is "Well I share a toilet with my husband and sons so what's the problem?" I guess the response of "Does that mean that you'd be happy to share a bed with every man you meet seeing as you happily share a bed with your husband?" is not what they're looking for...

Oh god, the 'your toilet at home is gender neutral!!!' argument. Used by the very, very, very dim TRA's.

Noshowlomo · 01/04/2024 16:45

She’s so fucking untouchable and I love it 🙌🏼🙌🏼

Boiledbeetle · 01/04/2024 16:45

potato57 · 01/04/2024 16:41

Source on the numbers on that please. A real source.

You'll have to take it from me, and biology,

100% of transwomen are men!

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