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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sara Morrison vs Belfast Film Festival

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NorthernIrishFeminist · 23/01/2024 14:58

Employers seem to be slow learners when it comes to women's rights! There’s another employment tribunal case being brought by a woman who attended and took the microphone at a Let Women Speak event in Belfast last year and has been treated very badly by her employer Belfast Film Festival as a result.

Looks like we’re going to have to keep gardening until they get the message.

disclaimer. I don’t know Sara and have no connection to BFF I’m just a woman who likes donating to causes that make a difference

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MyrtleLion · 13/11/2025 15:37

MyrtleLion · 13/11/2025 15:36

From NW

... 2013
MD I've got loads I can give you
NC you've had your chance
MD [laughs - gives long list of women's groups BFF has worked with in the past]
[we move on]
NC look at 5 July email to board:

"I am sending you a note to flag up an issue which has emerged over the past few days, regarding a member of our
staff speaking at a rally in Belfast in April this year.
I have been liaising with the Chair/s to resolve this matter -1 know some of you are aware from social media and
conversations you have had with your own friends and colleagues. The chair/s and I are drafting a statement which
will go out today. I will run it by you all in advance so would appreciate it if you could cast your eye over it before it
goes public.
Michele"

And here comes the "oh so reasonable, with sorrow not anger" statement that means they might have to let poor SM go because she said some hurty words.

MyrtleLion · 13/11/2025 15:38

From NW

NC This wasn't something about past few days - this happened yesterday - 4 July.
MD well yesterday and today - that's two days. I just wanted to make sure they knew
NC well it was on 28 June that you got together to work out what to do to "accelerate the process"
MD "no it's just a turn of phrase... the last two days.. the last day or two..."

TheseCowsAreSmall · 13/11/2025 15:39

She said WORDS in a PLACE where PEOPLE we did not PREAPPROVE were. BURN HER!

SionnachRuadh · 13/11/2025 15:39

This might be just me, but MD is sounding very flippant, which is not a wise approach when giving evidence at tribunal. Judges like it when you sound sober and factual. Judges don't like it when you seem to be taking the hand.

MarieDeGournay · 13/11/2025 15:39

MD I've got loads I can give you
NC you've had your chance
MD [laughs - gives long list of women's groups BFF has worked with in the past]
[we move on]
Laughing at NC. Inadvisable😏

BettyBooper · 13/11/2025 15:40

I keep thinking it can't get any worse.

And then it does...

MyrtleLion · 13/11/2025 15:41

BettyBooper · 13/11/2025 15:40

I keep thinking it can't get any worse.

And then it does...

This is genuinely shocking.

MyrtleLion · 13/11/2025 15:41

From NW

This is an email on 4 July sent to MTM and LBD to her co-chairs "Hi Marie-Therese and Louise
Yesterday we sent this email to all LGBTQ groups on our database, I worked with Sara to draw up the
list and we jointly wrote this email. Sara was concerned about sending it from her email address,
because of an issue she had with Alliance forChoice-ltoldheritwasherjobasinclusion officer that
it should come from her, but if it would help I would send it from my email address and cc her in.
We have had a few positive emails back. And we have had 2 others which I will forward to you
separately. We have also had some tweets from Queerspace - which I will send to you FYI.
Michele

Dear LGBTQI+ Friends
"We are looking forward to Pride 2023 and are currently planning a PRIDE ON THE BIG SCREEN chillout
day at the new Belfast Stories site - opposite the Sunflower (Union St / Kent St). Following the
success of the Shellshock Sessions event at this exciting new site during our Doc Festival in June (see
below). Unfortunately, in June we were choc-a-block so didn’t get time to submit to the pride
brochure.
We want the film day to be a relaxing affair for those who want to nurse their hangover on one of our
beanbags ... or get out of the house with the kids - we are thinking of starting with x2 family films ...
maybe the Wizard of Oz / Encanto??. And of including some short films made by local LGBTQI+
filmmakers (Conan McIver's brilliant Dam?). Pedro has put his oar in for PRIDE the film. Maybe
nothing with subtitles, coz we all might be feeling a bit delicate on the Sunday. We would love the
opportunity to co-design this day with you, time is tight... we would be happy to meet / chat with you
this week ... it would be great it if you could give us a ring/drop us a note with your thoughts /
ideas. Please share to groups/individuals we may have missed. In Solidarity and with Pride
Michele Devlin
Director
Belfast Film Festival
& Docs Ireland

ThatDaringMintCritic · 13/11/2025 15:42

Not often you see them build the pyre and light the match in plain sight.

MyrtleLion · 13/11/2025 15:43

MyrtleLion · 13/11/2025 15:41

From NW

This is an email on 4 July sent to MTM and LBD to her co-chairs "Hi Marie-Therese and Louise
Yesterday we sent this email to all LGBTQ groups on our database, I worked with Sara to draw up the
list and we jointly wrote this email. Sara was concerned about sending it from her email address,
because of an issue she had with Alliance forChoice-ltoldheritwasherjobasinclusion officer that
it should come from her, but if it would help I would send it from my email address and cc her in.
We have had a few positive emails back. And we have had 2 others which I will forward to you
separately. We have also had some tweets from Queerspace - which I will send to you FYI.
Michele

Dear LGBTQI+ Friends
"We are looking forward to Pride 2023 and are currently planning a PRIDE ON THE BIG SCREEN chillout
day at the new Belfast Stories site - opposite the Sunflower (Union St / Kent St). Following the
success of the Shellshock Sessions event at this exciting new site during our Doc Festival in June (see
below). Unfortunately, in June we were choc-a-block so didn’t get time to submit to the pride
brochure.
We want the film day to be a relaxing affair for those who want to nurse their hangover on one of our
beanbags ... or get out of the house with the kids - we are thinking of starting with x2 family films ...
maybe the Wizard of Oz / Encanto??. And of including some short films made by local LGBTQI+
filmmakers (Conan McIver's brilliant Dam?). Pedro has put his oar in for PRIDE the film. Maybe
nothing with subtitles, coz we all might be feeling a bit delicate on the Sunday. We would love the
opportunity to co-design this day with you, time is tight... we would be happy to meet / chat with you
this week ... it would be great it if you could give us a ring/drop us a note with your thoughts /
ideas. Please share to groups/individuals we may have missed. In Solidarity and with Pride
Michele Devlin
Director
Belfast Film Festival
& Docs Ireland

But this was definitely being planned in February.

Honest.

MyrtleLion · 13/11/2025 15:44

From NW

NC where are the positive emails of support
MD mentions a few off the top of her head
NC they haven't been disclosed
MD that's correct
NC all we know about those emails is that R has chosen not to disclose it
MD I haven't. I just told you
NC all we've seen is a few complaints

... not from women's sector.
MD yes
NC there might be dozens of emails saying well done for not bowing to the mob
MD there are two or three
NC saying that
MD not saying that - just saying how much they support the event
NC but not important enough to put in your WS

BettyBooper · 13/11/2025 15:45

'Iworked with Sara to draw up the
list and we jointly wrote this email. Sara was concerned about sending it from her email address,
because of an issue she had with Alliance forChoice-ltoldheritwasherjobasinclusion officer that
it should come from her, but if it would help I would send it from my email address and cc her in.'

Why on earth is this bit in the email?

The Lady doth protest too much...

SionnachRuadh · 13/11/2025 15:46

I mean this is Scooby Doo level plotting

MarieDeGournay · 13/11/2025 15:47

NC but not important enough to put in your WS🔥😁

MyrtleLion · 13/11/2025 15:47

BettyBooper · 13/11/2025 15:45

'Iworked with Sara to draw up the
list and we jointly wrote this email. Sara was concerned about sending it from her email address,
because of an issue she had with Alliance forChoice-ltoldheritwasherjobasinclusion officer that
it should come from her, but if it would help I would send it from my email address and cc her in.'

Why on earth is this bit in the email?

The Lady doth protest too much...

Providing too much explanation is one way to spot a lie.

MarieDeGournay · 13/11/2025 15:51

MC there's a lot in my WS. [x] pages. "It could put you to sleep'
Inappropriate again.

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 13/11/2025 15:52

MyrtleLion · 13/11/2025 15:25

And there it is. We're boycotting the non existent event because of SM.

Would be interesting to see how similar the structure and phrasing of the various withdrawal letters are.

Would tell us a lot if similar phrases, talking points or structure was used for letters from allegedly different sources

MyrtleLion · 13/11/2025 15:52

From NW

MC there's a lot in my WS. [x] pages. "It could put you to sleep"
NC the 3 July email went to two orgs mentioned in SM's speech and they did not complain
MD i didn't get any complaints
NC so there is no evidence whatsoever that SM's crit of womens' orgs in a private capacity has generated complaints and there is no evidence it damaged BFF's reputation at all
MD based on that analysis, no
NC so the decision to investigate SM came from the 3 emails sent from two orgs
MD there was tonnes on SM
NC before 5 July?
MD more after
NC but that's when the investigation was launched
MD there was loads of stuff before - we new we had to investigate fro 16 April
NC so are you saying that the investigation was sparked by what happened on 16 April
MD yes
NC why not get Think People investigation on 4 May board meeting, or 25 May email from MC?
MD I didn't want to disrupt the team
NC what about 25 June when MC wanted to "accelerate the process"
MD I was already in contact with Think People
NC and you knew you didn't have what you need to get rid of SM until it flared up again on 3 July.

KittyWilkinson · 13/11/2025 15:53

SionnachRuadh · 13/11/2025 15:46

I mean this is Scooby Doo level plotting

And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for that meddling Naomi Cunningham....

MyrtleLion · 13/11/2025 15:53

MD I was already in contact with Think People
NC and you knew you didn't have what you need to get rid of SM until it flared up again on 3 July.

Boom!

MarieDeGournay · 13/11/2025 15:54

WTF are Think People [sorry if it was explained before and I missed it] and do they have a Director of Better?

BettyBooper · 13/11/2025 15:55

MyrtleLion · 13/11/2025 15:52

From NW

MC there's a lot in my WS. [x] pages. "It could put you to sleep"
NC the 3 July email went to two orgs mentioned in SM's speech and they did not complain
MD i didn't get any complaints
NC so there is no evidence whatsoever that SM's crit of womens' orgs in a private capacity has generated complaints and there is no evidence it damaged BFF's reputation at all
MD based on that analysis, no
NC so the decision to investigate SM came from the 3 emails sent from two orgs
MD there was tonnes on SM
NC before 5 July?
MD more after
NC but that's when the investigation was launched
MD there was loads of stuff before - we new we had to investigate fro 16 April
NC so are you saying that the investigation was sparked by what happened on 16 April
MD yes
NC why not get Think People investigation on 4 May board meeting, or 25 May email from MC?
MD I didn't want to disrupt the team
NC what about 25 June when MC wanted to "accelerate the process"
MD I was already in contact with Think People
NC and you knew you didn't have what you need to get rid of SM until it flared up again on 3 July.

MD twisting and turning, but NCs all over it. 🔥

MyAmpleSheep · 13/11/2025 15:56

MarieDeGournay · 13/11/2025 15:54

WTF are Think People [sorry if it was explained before and I missed it] and do they have a Director of Better?

I'm pretty sure they have a Redundancy Department of Redundancy.

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 13/11/2025 15:57

WomanInnaWoods · 13/11/2025 15:34

Ironically that's a pretty accurate description for all these dainty flowers of acquired womanhood threatening women with violence for hurty words.

'Oh my god, he's gone trans critical'

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