Another GC employment tribunal: Roz Adams vs Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre #3

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Roz Adams was employed by Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre (ERCC) as a counsellor. She is claiming constructive dismissal for Gener Critical (GC) beliefs. The CEO of ERCC is a well known transwoman known for, among other things, controversial "reframe your trauma" remarks.

There's live tweeting from https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets or if Twitter doesn't show the tweets, look at https://nitter.net/tribunaltweets. There's an informative substack here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre

This post explains how to get access to watch the hearing: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4988632-another-gc-employment-tribunal-roz-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-2?page=24&reply=132419912

Abbreviations:
J: Employment Judge McFatridge
RA: Roz Adams, the claimant
NC: Naomi Cunningham, barrister for the claimant
ERCC or R: Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre, the respondent
DH: David Hay KC, barrister for the respondent
KM: Katy McTernan, ERCC Senior management
MR: Mairi Rosko, ERCC Board Member
MS: Miren Sagues, ERCC Board Member
KH: Katie Horburgh, ERCC Board Member
AB: ERCC staff member (name redacted)
NCi: Nico Ciubotariu, COO of ERCC
MW: Mridul Wadhwa, CEO of ERCC
BP: Beira's Place

RA gave evidence over 15-18 January 2024.

Witnesses:
Nicole Jones (NJ): 18 January 2024 (on behalf of RA)
Mairi Rosko (MR): 19 January 2024 (on behalf of ERCC)
Katy McTernan (referred to both as KT and KM): 22 January 2024 (on behalf of ERCC)
[more to follow]

Thread #1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4985570-another-gc-employment-tribunal-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crsis
Thread #2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4988632-another-gc-employment-tribunal-roz-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crisis-centre-2

Now Jo Phoenix gets drawn in by NC, and Rachel Meades, and others.

Asks if she's aware Jo and Rachel won their cases?

KM doesn't know Jo Phoenix won her case yesterday. Didn't know about her case.

KM knows nothing about Kathleen Stock beyond the name.

NC pulling out all the big guns,( to which Roz will get added to after this!!)

NC are you aware that Jo P won her case of discrimination vs OU yesterday

KM not aware

NC aware c Rachel Meade

KM yes

NC and Denise Farhmi

KM not aware

NC aware of events that led to K Stock leaving univ. Hounded out on basis that she was held to be transphobic.

KM don't know

This silencing and bullying is happening in many sevtors, doesn't agree. Doesn't know if they are part of a general pattern

Doesn't agree there's a problem

I'm getting Trump vibes

I wish NC would mention safeguarding of vulnerable service users. ERCC policies are so anti-safeguarding.

This is an important admission, because RA's beliefs are protected as WORIADS

MW was best candidate for role?

Oh fuck off!

M W was the best candidate for the role

no no no

I'd like to hear from the other candidates

Was a predictable result that victims wd self exclude?

Doesn't believe that has happened

NC is really pushing the idea that MW was appointed as a strategic goal. That it was part of greater planning. I'm not sure about presenting this to the panel who might interpret it as conspiracy thinking.

NC is brilliant!

KM would've been recognised that some people would be unhappy but wanted strong leader and MW was best candidate.

NC even if substantial number of your clients would self exclude as a result.

KM we continue to get people applying for themselves so not the result

NC Communicated that even rc centres needed to capitulate to gi

NC If men who say they are women can invade acc - final inner sanctum of women-only spaces - nowhere women can call their own.

KM applying MW was organisational decision not strategic

I would love to know who they were, I am sure there were some excellent candidates.

This is NC laying out her BIG point. She's brilliant.

If there was one question she should have answered 'I don't know' or 'I don't agree' to, it was that one.

😬

Women wouldn't want to be measured for a bra by Eddie Izzard?

too right!

MW was appointed because she's a woman not a transwoman!

oK then!

Using Eddie Izzard as an example because people are familiar with who EI is and how he looks.