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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Another GC employment tribunal. Roz Adams vs Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre #2

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nauticant · 19/01/2024 12:59

Claiming constructive dismissal for GC beliefs.

ERCC CEO is a well known transwoman know for controversial "reframe your trauma" remarks.

There was live tweeting from twitter.com/tribunaltweets or if Twitter doesn't show the tweets, look at https://nitter.net/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:
J: Employment Judge McFatridge
RA: Roz Adams, the claimant
NC: Naomi Cunningham, barrister for the claimant
R or ERCC: the Respondent, Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre
DH: David Hay KC, barrister for the respondent
KM: Katy McTernan, ERCC Senior management
MR: Mairi Rosko, ERCC Board Member
MS: Miren Sagues, ERCC Board Member
KH: Katie Horburgh, ERCC Board Member
AB: ERCC staff member (name redacted)
NCi: Nico Ciubotariu, COO of ERCC
MW: Mridul Wadhwa, CEO of ERCC
BP: Beira's Place

Witnesses:
Nicole Jones (NJ): 18 January 2024
Mairi Rosko (MR): 19 January 2024
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Thread #1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4985570-another-gc-employment-tribunal-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crsis

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GCITC · 22/01/2024 10:04

WFTCHTJ

Chrysanthemum5 · 22/01/2024 10:15

I wonder what they are discussing? Maybe ERCC are begging Roz to accept an apology and close this before it gets even more damaging.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 22/01/2024 10:16

I'm hoping they are not discussing excluding TT.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 22/01/2024 10:16

I suspect it will be the fallout from the TT coverage of the MR Forstater comments.

bumbledenbarsk · 22/01/2024 10:17

LipbalmOrKnickers · 22/01/2024 10:16

I suspect it will be the fallout from the TT coverage of the MR Forstater comments.

What happened there, then? I missed this.

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2024 10:20

GCITC · 22/01/2024 10:04

WFTCHTJ

Imagine if they had hold music, they would have to be very careful with their song choices.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 22/01/2024 10:21

Apology & clarification from TT on Twitter

Another GC employment tribunal. Roz Adams vs Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre #2
Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2024 10:22

bumbledenbarsk · 22/01/2024 10:17

What happened there, then? I missed this.

A line was accidentally missed out of the TT tweets, and after MR says she didn't know who Maya was, she actually did confirm she knew the case in question, I think, and it blew up rather a lot on Twitter.

GCITC · 22/01/2024 10:23

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2024 10:20

Imagine if they had hold music, they would have to be very careful with their song choices.

My preference would be to have the phrase read out in increasingly silly accents.

pronounsbundlebundle · 22/01/2024 10:26

I've got to be honest, I find it vanishingly unlikely that one could know about the case but not remember Maya's name given that it's literally referred to as the Forstater case every time it's discussed. But maybe that's just me.

Datun · 22/01/2024 10:28

Froodwithatowel · 22/01/2024 10:02

As Lipbalm says above, part of the selling of this ideology is that the law is wrong, and they are righteous for transgressing it. It will never be possible to convince the proponents of this belief system otherwise: the necessary part is the communication to those with a more balanced and objective view, that again and again and again the law does not uphold this behaviour, and names it for what it is. And public opinion shifts. And hopefully, insurers become more reluctant to be righteous but broke.

Yes, public opinion does shift. So it's counterproductive on their part really.

If they pay people off, the public wouldn't hear about it.

Which is why I wondered if they had tried, and JKR basically said don't worry, I'll finance the lot, let's hold their feet to the fire and get this in the public domain.

But I can totally see how very many of these people would rather be without a job, or credibility, but still be in 'the gang'.

As long as it works to our advantage, then I'm all for it

Chrysanthemum5 · 22/01/2024 10:28

Being fair maybe the witness misheard NC saying the name

ickky · 22/01/2024 10:29

I think it would be amusing to hear WFTCHTJ in Christopher Walken's voice.

Poinsettiasarevile · 22/01/2024 10:30

I happen to be at a lose end today. Have asked to join. How long did it take for others before the link cam through?

Ta

pronounsbundlebundle · 22/01/2024 10:31

I think they've got away with outright misuse of public funds, not doing their core job, and pushing the ideology for so long that they think they're invincible.

Shades of the SNP.

Chrysanthemum5 · 22/01/2024 10:31

Jane Horrocks is the most amazing mimic I'd like to hear her doing WFTCHTJ in her impressions of Judy garland etc

pronounsbundlebundle · 22/01/2024 10:31

Chrysanthemum5 · 22/01/2024 10:31

Jane Horrocks is the most amazing mimic I'd like to hear her doing WFTCHTJ in her impressions of Judy garland etc

Now that's a waste of taxpayers money I could totally get behind.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 22/01/2024 10:32

I was imagining John Cleese giving it a run for the money!

nauticant · 22/01/2024 10:32

A few days ago it was an hour or two Poinsettiasarevile.

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ickky · 22/01/2024 10:33

@Poinsettiasarevile Very quick about 10 minutes.

nauticant · 22/01/2024 10:36

For those who are joining for the first time, as soon as you connect look to the bottom of the screen for the 6 icons in a row and make sure the microphone and the camera icons indicated turned-off or click them to make sure they're off.

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Chrysanthemum5 · 22/01/2024 10:37

I keep getting kicked out I'm having to join on my phone as I couldn't get the computer instructions to work

ickky · 22/01/2024 10:38

I'm still waiting, is anyone else in yet?

nauticant · 22/01/2024 10:39

WFTCHTJ

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Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2024 10:39

Chrysanthemum5 · 22/01/2024 10:37

I keep getting kicked out I'm having to join on my phone as I couldn't get the computer instructions to work

I just got kicked out and had to log back in, still WFTCHTJ

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