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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Alice Cooper has been cancelled

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EmmaGrundyForPM · 01/09/2023 05:50

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/alice-cooper-cancelled-by-cosmetics-firm-after-opposing-trans-surgeries-for-kids/news-story/14d6d77ad55d29508169d5ae7e47a0b5?amp

Alice Cooper has said what loads of people think but are too scared to say, and the cosmetics firm who produce his make up products have dropped him.
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Hopefully he won't back down on this one.

Rock legend Alice Cooper dropped after trans comments

Alice Cooper, the eyeliner wearing “Godfather of Shock Rock,” was dumped by a cosmetics company after the singer questioned the rush to perform trans surgeries on kids and said that transitioning genders was a “fad.”

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/alice-cooper-cancelled-by-cosmetics-firm-after-opposing-trans-surgeries-for-kids/news-story/14d6d77ad55d29508169d5ae7e47a0b5?amp=

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risefromyourgrave · 01/09/2023 11:45

HateLongCovid · 01/09/2023 10:07

Jonny Depp was found "Not guilty" wasn't he? Confused

Yes, and FWIW I think that AH lied a hell of a lot in her testimony, and agree with the verdict. But I tend to find that the majority of TRA’s also support Amber Heard, so find their stance a bit hypocritical.

CervixSampler · 01/09/2023 11:47

This was announced last week. I've always loved Alice.

Abra1t · 01/09/2023 11:50

RainWithSunnySpells · 01/09/2023 09:32

I've always loved this one (a slower song). Alice Cooper and Chris Cornell working together worked really well.

I love it too.

CervixSampler · 01/09/2023 11:52

This is a beautiful song from Alice.

Might as Well Be on Mars g.co/kgs/5Jjd8C

Brefugee · 01/09/2023 11:54

Teenagelament · 01/09/2023 11:35

He did indeed, he wrote it!

Oh I know he wrote it but I've ne er tried to find his version because Julie Covington is so perfect

FlouncingBabooshka · 01/09/2023 11:54

Brefugee · 01/09/2023 11:08

did he ever actually record a version of Only Women Bleed?
He is worth loving forever if only for that. (and that fantastic cameo in the Wayne's World film)

l’m pretty sure he wrote it didn’t he?

FlouncingBabooshka · 01/09/2023 11:55

Sorry @Brefugee -cross post!

Kindofcrunchy · 01/09/2023 12:01

This has inspired me to buy his entire back catalogue.

Brefugee · 01/09/2023 12:07

FlouncingBabooshka · 01/09/2023 11:55

Sorry @Brefugee -cross post!

No probs.
I remember the album cover for me School's Out. Must hunt mine out.

Greenwitchhorse · 01/09/2023 12:07

I think what he said is extremely sensible.

Frankly most people probably think the same: that kids are not mentally, and emotionally able to make the irreversible decision of suddenly wanting to change gender.

I think that is just common sense. Most of us remember how clueless we were as teenagers about so many things and much we change in our views/opinions when we grow up a bit.

I have nothing against people who choose to transition and fully support that but that really is a life-altering decision that should be made when the individual has had enough time to mature into an adult.

I really think we need to stop pandering to the ''cancelling'' of people who simply are voicing very valid opinions and only have the welfare of children at heart.

Quite amusing as well that I am a vegan, queer, rock music-loving woman so the type of people that the make-up company is claiming to represent and I have zero issues with Alice sharing these views on this...

CervixSampler · 01/09/2023 12:15

Alice blasting out of the Alexa reliving my teenage years 🖤

IbizaToTheNorfolkBroads · 01/09/2023 12:24

I share a name with this old rocker.
This was a very alarming thread title to read! But the old fella is taking sense. Proud to have been cancelled!

Pixiedust1234 · 01/09/2023 12:30

This collection will exude Alice’s style and feature guitar and amp shaped makeup palettes, microphone styled lipsticks and a major highlight for Alice Cooper and makeup fans to look forward to is a new version of Alice Cooper's iconic Whiplash mascara.

So...apart from one item the rest is just "new and improved" packaging? Basically con artists rather than make up artists?

Boiledbeetle · 01/09/2023 12:32

MenopauseSucks · 01/09/2023 11:41

I saw Alice Cooper a few years ago.
His fans are so loyal, he could've walked on stage, farted into the mic & they still would've gone mad with delight!
Both sexes wearing a lot of makeup.

I doubt this will bother him & he's saying things his fans agree with.
Only Women Bleed was about a woman suffering domestic violence. The lyrics are worth a read.

Lyrics for the sing along

Only women bleed

Man got his woman
To take his seed
He got the power, oh
She got the need
She spends her life through
Pleasing up her man
She feeds him dinner, oh
Anything she can
She cries alone at night too often
He smokes, and drinks, and don't come home at all
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Man makes your hair gray
He's your life's mistake
All you're really lookin' for's
An even break
He lies right at you
You know you hate this game
Slaps you once in a while
And you live and love in pain
She cries alone at night too often
He smokes and drinks and don't come home at all, ooh
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Black eyes
All of the time
Don't spend a dime
Clean up this grime
And you there
Down on your knees
Begging to please
Come watch me bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed
Only women bleed

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pIrI0MPBUic

Alice Cooper - Only Women Bleed (1975) (Official Video)

#alicecooper #onlywomenbleed

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pIrI0MPBUic

Teenagelament · 01/09/2023 12:53

Brefugee · 01/09/2023 11:54

Oh I know he wrote it but I've ne er tried to find his version because Julie Covington is so perfect

Ooh, I must check out her version!

BlueKaftan · 01/09/2023 12:58

He’s too rich to have those teeth.

Brefugee · 01/09/2023 13:32

Pixiedust1234 · 01/09/2023 12:30

This collection will exude Alice’s style and feature guitar and amp shaped makeup palettes, microphone styled lipsticks and a major highlight for Alice Cooper and makeup fans to look forward to is a new version of Alice Cooper's iconic Whiplash mascara.

So...apart from one item the rest is just "new and improved" packaging? Basically con artists rather than make up artists?

"amp shaped" - eh? boxes, or not?

Brefugee · 01/09/2023 13:34

Teenagelament · 01/09/2023 12:53

Ooh, I must check out her version!

no need to search - here it is.
I only ever knew this one, i didn't realise until years later that cooper wrote it

Julie Covington - Only Women Bleed

Just a great song from 1977.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptPfUQp76x4

BaronessBomburst · 01/09/2023 16:42

@Abra1t @RainWithSunnySpells
I'm daft! Of course I know Stolen Prayer!
I've got the album and the accompanying comic book.

HoliHormonalTigerLillyTheSecond · 02/09/2023 00:13

DiabolicalFinial · 01/09/2023 09:36

“Only women bleed” - Alice knows reality!

Go Alice

EBearhug · 02/09/2023 01:59

Prefer Alice's version to Julie's, but I have a theory that you always prefer the version you first hear..

PriOn1 · 02/09/2023 06:19

EBearhug · 02/09/2023 01:59

Prefer Alice's version to Julie's, but I have a theory that you always prefer the version you first hear..

Not always! I love David Gray’s update on Soft Cell’s “Say Hello, Wave Goodbye.” Heard it on the radio and went out to buy White Ladder. I hadn’t heard of David Gray, but had never liked Soft Cell. Sometimes a cover can open your eyes to how good a song is when it’s given a new feel.

Brefugee · 02/09/2023 08:34

EBearhug · 02/09/2023 01:59

Prefer Alice's version to Julie's, but I have a theory that you always prefer the version you first hear..

Possibly. But i do try to listen to as many women's voices as possible because i like my music on the heavy side so it is a bit of a sausage fest.

BananaStraw · 02/09/2023 08:57

Oh my you can always rely on these threads to teach you something new!
I love Alice Cooper's music but Julie Covington's version just blew me away!

I'm so glad he's another who's spoken up!

DontGetEvenGetEverything · 03/09/2023 03:20

@MenopauseSucks "Both sexes wearing a lot of makeup."
I feel like there's something about class and the policing of gender here.
This sub-culture is more than fifty years old now. Male people happily indulging a love of make-up. These men are mostly working class, certainly not posh and not university types. The kids at Vampyre Cosmetics are from a different world entirely. Closely linked to the humanities departments of the most elite academies in the anglo-sphere. They're decades late to the game, but they're wedded to the idea that if a male person does something, like wearing make-up, that only female peope did in the USA in the 1950s, then he must shift existential categories. If he's old enough he gets all sorts of special priviledges and if he's young enough he must be prevented from going throuh puberty.
I have a habit of rabbiting on when I write on here, and I'm struggling to express my thoughts succinctly.
Sometimes I wish we had social science departments to look at this sort of stuff.

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