Alice Cooper has been cancelled

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https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/alice-cooper-cancelled-by-cosmetics-firm-after-opposing-trans-surgeries-for-kids/news-story/14d6d77ad55d29508169d5ae7e47a0b5?amp

Alice Cooper has said what loads of people think but are too scared to say, and the cosmetics firm who produce his make up products have dropped him.
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Hopefully he won't back down on this one.

Absolutely. He has a massive fan base and he is very religious and entitled to his views . The recent uk tour was sold out and no one has heard of the make up company . He definitely has not been cancelled .

I once met him in Hamspstead and he was one of the sweetest people I’ve ever met.

I suspect he does not care that much. He, and his wife, have gone through far bigger issues than this and they both have strong religious backgrounds.

He is bigger than they are & all the company have gone is 'go woke, go broke'.

I was lucky enough to see him and the Hollywood vampires at the 02 . It was like being a teenager all over again . He is very loved and very protective of all his band members . I don’t think he said anything wrong and hopefully he won’t back down .

Interesting that his record label won't be stopping publicity of any forthcoming album, cancelling interviews. No venues will be boarding up their doors to him.

I say interesting. What I meant to say was, "he's a man, so his record label won't be taking any action, ditto venues"
Ditto Santana. Ditto Ne Yo.

...but not ditto Róisín Murphy. Nope, the very opposite for her.

Alice's new album no 1 in UK metal charts:
https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/rock-and-metal-albums-chart/

As I said earlier in the thread he has played about 5-6 concerts in the last 11 days since he did the interview and his new album is out and has sold well.

The cosmetics deal was a recent thing and not important at all as others have said. He has probably made any money lost straight back again. It is interesting how the media talk about it being significant. There is a lot of coverage. This exaggerates the power of the gender lobby creates fear.

The contrast with Róisín Murphy is stark. However it is clear there are very low penalties for powerful male stars who question gender ideology and stand their ground. Ricky Gervais for example is MORE popular than ever, Chappelle selling out gigs.

Richard Dawkins way lower power level but has been doing multiple public events. No push back.

Remember, offense only matters when the right people are offended.

BBC Radio 2 has Alice Cooper album "Road" as Album of the Week.
Obviously didn't get the memo.

His album Road is no 8 the UK album charts.

Does that mean we have to cancel Radio 2 as well?

Because it is a rubbish station and that is something I could get behind. But then again, I support their right to be as rubbish as they want. In fact, I defend their right to broadcast lousy DJs up to the point where my ears can hear it. Or something like that.

If I was running a business and he was promoting that and then putting off a large proportion off buying my products I would drop him too.

It's not that his views are being cancelled he's been dropped from a business

If I was running a business and he was promoting that and then putting off a large proportion off buying my products I would drop him too.
Large proportion? I highly doubt that makeup company have a large and/or loyal fan base 😂

If you were a really serious business owner surely you would get the views/background of those you are partnering with before signing the contract or announcing it in the press? I mean...that's the basic minimum of business

The Alice X Vampyre Cosmetics collection never even made it to production, so the company cannot know if their sales figures would’ve been good or bad.

Perhaps Vampyre use a crystal ball instead of a calculator? 😂

The cosmetics company are most definitely cutting their nose off to spite their face. Any impact will be felt by them alone, Alice Cooper won't care and won't have any negative outcomes as others on this thread have outlined already. They might get a small increase in sales from the additional publicity but it will be short lived as the story drops out of the headlines.

Yet look at the publicity this company are now getting.

Ahhhh...but are they getting the sales and hard cash? Alice is getting plenty of hard cash right now through various avenues. It would be interesting to see the makeup sales graphs for before and after. Wonder if it will have the same trajectory as Bud Light 🤔

Cancelled schmancelled.

I was at King’s Cross station today, and the huge queues of people wanting to go into the Harry Potter shop, and the queue waiting to have their photo taken with a pile of Hogwarts luggage gave me a smile.

It must drive the TRAs mad to see that most people outwith their echo chamber simply don’t give a fuck about their beef with JKR.

Gutted for Roisin, though, she’s sound. I’ll buy her new stuff.

As a man, I always laughed at the idea of "male supremacy". I mean, you don't even see it when you're in my XY camp, and I'm by far not even an alpha male.

The world just is, keeps spinning.

With what's happening to Róisín, I can see it in stark relief.

No way would this be happening to Harry Styles. To Sam Smith. To Noel or Liam Gallagher.

But it's happening to Róisín. Maybe if she IDd as a man, it would all fall away.

You don’t believe that nonsense about all publicity being good publicity, do you? 🙃

Alice Cooper is a multimillionaire. He can squish that daft little company to bankruptcy in a breach of contract suit. Just d panda in whether he can be arsed or not.

Vampyre Cosmetics made a call - it is their right to do so. It wasn't motivated by business concerns though it was due to their belief one side is in the right about how gender works. They then publicised their decision got lots of coverage. They might get a boost to their sales.

The best call for most businesses for profit is to avoid the gender wars and to stay neutral or even better play off both sides. See Netflix.

Meanwhile Vampyre Cosmetics have closed their Twitter account as result of a backlash. Hardly a sign of that plan going well.

The bigger point is their position is inconsistent.

They run a Buffy the Vampire slayer line of cosmetics. Connected to Joss Whedon whose improprieties are well known.

A Cthulhu line of cosmetics - connected to the dubious HP Lovecraft whose homophobia was blatant.

Silent Hill cosmetics when the art director responsible for most of the monster design recently came out as expressly gender critical:

https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/03/16/original-silent-hill-2-art-director-masahiro-ito-responds-after-being-attacked-for-retweeting-matt-walshs-definition-of-a-woman-says-activists-dont-have-any-interests-in-lgbtq-and-just-want/

As a horror/metal fan I don't mind these choices, I enjoy a whole bunch of "problematic" material myself. I don't want any art/business cancelled. There is a lack of self reflection though who are the monsters here really? Alice Cooper, who portrays fictional horrors, or the surgeons experimenting on kids to create new fantastic beings?

Business wise Vampyre Cosmetics would have been better off sticking with Alice and weathering the storm. As all the venues hosting his concerts, record company and shops selling his album are doing.

Their belief system couldn't handle that. Just like a Christian store in the 80s that would refuse to stock Alice Cooper merc because it might look satanic. This is why this whole thing is so surreal. It is like something out of a horror film or an Alice Cooper album itself.

Great post fromorbit.

I wake up every morning looking like Alice Cooper, I'm sure he or his fans give no shits.

It would be easier to cancel the sunrise than to cancel Alice Cooper.

Is this your way of telling us that Alice Cooper lurks on Mumsnet?

I was thinking about this. I wonder if it's more that Alice Cooper was doing them a favour by letting them piggyback on his name - and now they have done their homework, it's no skin off his nose.