“If you see a TERF, punch them in the fucking face!” Speech at Trans Pride London 8 July 2023

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Sarah Jane Baker, on the Trans Pride stage, saying

“If you see a TERF, punch them in the fucking face!”

to a cheering crowd :)

https://twitter.com/unpopulargenz/status/1677790606561628160

NB to MNHQ the video shows this being said. It is not just an allegation being shared.

Ahhh, but it will be said that they were just jokes, not REALLY meant to incite violence. Everyone knows THAT…..

I've said this before but gender ideology really must present a glorious wet dream for women haters - shout violent abuse at women and be cheered for it! Have elected representatives back your violent rhetoric! The incels must be squirming with glee.

This is my turf. Close to where I live and close to where I work. Why should I have to spend my weekends (last weekend too) thinking about where I go and which streets I walk down, which pins I can go into, incase I meet a gang of angry men looking for a woman to punch.

I’ve lived in London for ages now - since I was a student, and was also a student in Glasgow. I’ve never felt as unsafe as I do these days.

I see more and more people like this on the streets, acting our and trying to make eye contact with women and tourists in an attempt to cause a scene and scream at them.

the police do nothing. I don’t trust them to keep the public safe.

from that Richmond Hub article about Baker wanting to be an MP:

Baker's main policies include:

-crazy shit
-crazy shit
- free admission to Kew Gardens

reader, Baker lives in Kew

these people are always a mixture of terrifyingly dangerous and a fucking joke aren't they?

Of course neither the pathetic wasters that are the probation service or the useless gold braided had wringing nose dripping coppers will do a damn thing.

This has just been tested in court, in the Mermaids vs LGBA case. The judges' conclusions:

Dissent, criticism and misgendering is not abuse, and cannot be used to justify violence that is otherwise against the law.

Would the police and government now like to enforce the law please? Because this is becoming flat out MRA terrorism. How obvious does it need to get before anyone takes their thumb out of their bum and does something?

In the UK, we can cite several things to show TERF is considered to be hate speech:

District Judge John Woollard acknowledged 'Terf' as a derogatory word aimed at, primarily, gender critical women. (Basildon Magistrate's Court on 01/03/2019 REGINA vs YARDLEY).

All Party Parliamentary Group Report on Hate Crime stated that:

"It can easily be argued that this constitutes hate speech under Criminal Justice Act, which people have been successfully prosecuted for."

Standards Commission for Scotland again: Dundee Councillor Gregor Murray was suspended after the Commission found Murray "abused the complainer by referring to her as a TERF (a pejorative term which stands for ‘trans-exclusionary radical feminist’)."

Mr Justice Knowles in the Harry Miller vs College of Policing case acknowledged "terf" as a derogatory slur. That's UK case law. Miller won his case, if I recall correctly.

“I have become familiar with term TERF. It is a derogatory term used by those who seek to deplatform those who hold different views”. 21/11/19 UK

Judge also asserted, "It can be pejorative."

Also, Medical Journal of Australia has recognised 'terf' as a "derogatory term":

"Aug 8, 2019
The MJA apologises unreservedly for the derogatory term used in a recent post, which does not reflect the views of the MJA. A review of all our social media protocols is underway to ensure similar incidents are not a part of the MJA's social media activity - MJA Editor-in-Chief"

Please can you confirm the postcode for those of us wanting to use the met police reporting tool, if you know where this took place?

that you woman wearing a 'terfs r cunts' t-shirt. what a twit

I think the people who smugly identify as ‘allies’ are often the worst of all. They’re so busy congratulating themselves on being so enlightened, and seem to mostly be concerned with their public image more than anything else.

At least we have one.

Where's he getting the money from to live in London?

postcode is WC2N 5DN

WC2N 5DN

@forgotmyusername1 - I should probably report you for the actual violent hate crime of misgendering, but will channel my inner Ricky Gervais instead:

'If you see a transwoman knee HER in the balls'

SKB and their megaphone have protested several GC events (can people remember which? Can we make a list?). They follow GC people on twitter and have even joined GC twitter spaces.

SJB is a clear danger to women, and the police really need to do something.

How come this thread isn't trending? It's unbelievable and very worrying.

Its a joke that such ppl are given platform. Whoever stands with that persona should be ashamed.

The people I have seen protesting women’s events honestly seem to have no idea at all who a ‘terf’ is. They have been spoon fed that a ‘terf’ is a fascist person who wants to eliminate trans people and who has a ‘biological essentialist’ approach to women and their our own bodies.

They have never actually listened to women. They have soaked up only the carefully curated misinformation. And yet they fully believe that they are righteous and intolerant.

'Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan@MayorofLondon
·
Jul 8I want to wish everyone at London Trans Pride today a joyful, safe and empowering day.

It's never been more important to support trans people, who are being stigmatised and placed at the heart of a toxic culture war.

As your Mayor, I will always be on your side.'

That message from a verified account saying "As your Mayor, I will always be on your side" looks very sinister if that is left there without any clarification that he stands against incitement to violence.

I agree, it’s very scary.
It’s like boiling a frog, the way acceptance of VAWG against women in return for wrongthink has slowly become normalised till someone can incite violence, a crowd cheer and everyone else be doubtful the police will take any action.

Listen to the lead up to that threat "I was gonna come here and be really nice, really fluffy....... nah - if you see a terf, punch them in the fucking face.."

That's a deliberate, premeditated decision to urge the mob to punch any woman they decide is a terf.

And that's an ANTIFA flag Baker's waving, btw.

It's the crowd cheering that gets to me. I seem to remember a similar roar of approval for the person who called for women to be 'dragged off by their saggy tits' at Pride a few years back.
You'd think something like that would be met silence and a sudden awkwardness at best, but it's cheers and woops. That's not a crowd, it's a mob.
I still struggle to understand how anyone is still defending this stuff.

It’s so disturbing