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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Another TRA making violent threats

260 replies

DerekFaker · 08/06/2023 09:15

I wonder if this person will be subjected to the same treatment as Caroline Farrow?

Let's wait and see!

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Florissante · 08/06/2023 13:36

littlbrowndog · 08/06/2023 13:27

I reported that violent guy to Twitter and they said this morning he had been suspended

Good.

Florissante · 08/06/2023 13:37

ArabeIIaScott · 08/06/2023 13:22

Just more derailing.

  • Women post clear examples of targeted violent threats.
  • Cue vague story about someone somewhere posting a nasty cartoon

Whataboutery stretched to breaking point.

You forgot to mention the posts by flying monkeys, of which @bluemoonswoon's post is a perfect example.

Florissante · 08/06/2023 13:39

FrippEnos · 08/06/2023 09:33

bluemoonswoon

Or you could support people in their opinions and actual debate what is going on.

That is a very kind response to @bluemoonswoon's post, which does not deserve that level of courtesy.

TheCreamTeaWasFromMe · 08/06/2023 13:44

Genuinely baffled by how quickly certain posters appear every time there's a thread concerning police behaviour or trans-rights activists.

Does a klaxon go off somewhere or something? Quick! To Mumsnet! Where I must immediately pontificate the whataboutery and batshittery that I'm frequently challenged on but can never quite defend...

Florissante · 08/06/2023 13:44

MerlinsLostMarbles · 08/06/2023 13:06

There are bad apples on both sides.

Just yesterday a transperson was asking people on social media to report an account posting vile threats which included a GIF of a Newton's Cradle with drawings of hanged people in trans colours instead of the balls.

This sort of thing has became worse since EM took over.

Bull.

Florissante · 08/06/2023 13:46

Brisland · 08/06/2023 12:56

But which prison?
I have no faith that it would be a male prison, especially if the same judge gets any say…

The men's estate as the individual is male. Is male and always will be male. A man who threatens violence towards or commits violent acts against women should never, ever be jailed in a women's prison.

Florissante · 08/06/2023 13:48

Felix125 · 08/06/2023 12:24

SinnerBoy

OK - perhaps the word victim should have been placed in inverted commas for the CF case - sorry if this has caused you major confusion.

Do you now want to bring up Boiledbeetle mixing up the two counties as another major confusing issue for you?

Do you want me to add a string of 'disclaimers' to the end of each of my posts just to cover my back?

Note that the word disclaimers is in inverted commas too

Here's a question for you: Are you capable of being courteous to other posters?

Florissante · 08/06/2023 13:49

bluemoonswoon · 08/06/2023 09:52

The thing is - violence against women is a serious problem. Which you are all rightly aware of. This man in the post should be reported to the police (not just reporting the post on social media).
My point is though - there are loads of men making violent and rape threats all over social media. The way that mumsnet users just seem to focus in on the ones by trans women along with the threads that I mentioned earlier (about Sam smith as an example) will make many people think that your problem is will all trans women.
But in fact, your problem is with violent men.

Of whom the individual under discussion is one such person. But who avoid jail because they are trans. This is a serious issue and no amount of whatabouttery or whining will change that.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 08/06/2023 13:51

I really can’t recommend grey rocks highly enough

if it helps with motivation, bear in mind that many men get sexual gratification from almost any attention they receive from women, being ‘told off’ in particular

Florissante · 08/06/2023 13:52

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 08/06/2023 13:51

I really can’t recommend grey rocks highly enough

if it helps with motivation, bear in mind that many men get sexual gratification from almost any attention they receive from women, being ‘told off’ in particular

You're right. Normally I avoid TRAs. Will try to remember to remember to do that in the future.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 08/06/2023 13:54

It’s easier said than done I know

but while they keep getting all that lovely attention they’re never going to fuck off

and while I welcome a plurality of voices, the one on this thread just wastes everyone’s time and energy

DerekFaker · 08/06/2023 14:00

MerlinsLostMarbles · 08/06/2023 13:06

There are bad apples on both sides.

Just yesterday a transperson was asking people on social media to report an account posting vile threats which included a GIF of a Newton's Cradle with drawings of hanged people in trans colours instead of the balls.

This sort of thing has became worse since EM took over.

Both sides? Was that from an actual GC account or just a transphobic troll? I know you don't like to distinguish, (wholst lecturing us about tarring all trans people with the same brush) but they are two different groups.

Whichever it was, whilst I absolutely condone something like that, it's hardly equivalent to direct threat from a violent man with a conviction.

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ArabeIIaScott · 08/06/2023 14:15

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 08/06/2023 13:51

I really can’t recommend grey rocks highly enough

if it helps with motivation, bear in mind that many men get sexual gratification from almost any attention they receive from women, being ‘told off’ in particular

Do the Rolling Stones count as Grey Rock, these days?

You can't always get what you want ...

nilsmousehammer · 08/06/2023 14:29

Considering women have ended up in police cells for stating facts that TQ+ extremists felt were expressed a little more bluntly than they felt comfortable with?

This one should definitely have their collar felt and a probable psychiatric assessment. Normal, well people don't behave like this, talk like this or have extreme violent fantasies like this.

OvaHere · 08/06/2023 14:35

You're losing the room.

I really don't think so. The 'room' has decamped to a much larger venue.

KalimbaMoon · 08/06/2023 14:42

If a TW does a bad thing, we’re not going to look the other way just because it’s a TW. Granted, there are dodgy, violent non-trans men all over Twitter and we’ll talk about them too but it’s irrelevant to this particular issue. The issue here is the comparison between how violent trans activists are treated by the law, and how non-violent women expressing GC views are treated. As it’s been mentioned upthread, you’ll be hard-pressed to find any threats of violence from GC women and yet our side is the one being demonised.

SinnerBoy · 08/06/2023 14:43

Boiledbeetle · Today 12:38

He's perfectly entitled to. I'm sure I've confused many people, including myself, with that fuck up today!

Oh, I wasn't confused, I realised it was a typo. Unlike the inverted commas and lack thereof.

SinnerBoy · 08/06/2023 14:44

Just yesterday a transperson was asking people on social media to report an account posting vile threats which included a GIF of a Newton's Cradle with drawings of hanged people in trans colours instead of the balls.

Unless I see evidence of that, I'm calling bullshit.

Hoppinggreen · 08/06/2023 14:46

OvaHere · 08/06/2023 14:35

You're losing the room.

I really don't think so. The 'room' has decamped to a much larger venue.

We don’t need a room, we’ve got a MF Island

Florissante · 08/06/2023 14:52

We've got an entire island!

Boiledbeetle · 08/06/2023 14:56

SinnerBoy · 08/06/2023 14:43

Boiledbeetle · Today 12:38

He's perfectly entitled to. I'm sure I've confused many people, including myself, with that fuck up today!

Oh, I wasn't confused, I realised it was a typo. Unlike the inverted commas and lack thereof.

No, I will own it as a complete fuck up. Despite having just been On the C.F. Thread I forgot which delightful police force was dealing with her. And I did not do my due diligence and check before posting it was the same police force as this one.

I have punished myself severely. I only had one chocolate chip cookie instead of two. I feel sufficiently chastised for my error.

SinnerBoy · 08/06/2023 14:57

Cripes! You were too hard on yourself!

Boiledbeetle · 08/06/2023 14:57

To right we have!

Another TRA making violent threats
SunnyEgg · 08/06/2023 14:57

Hoppinggreen · 08/06/2023 14:46

We don’t need a room, we’ve got a MF Island

I’m not sure which post brought this up with room but this made me laugh

Boiledbeetle · 08/06/2023 14:58

SinnerBoy · 08/06/2023 14:57

Cripes! You were too hard on yourself!

Brushes crumbs from third cookie from mouth.... I know so i treated myself to cookies for being a good girl and admitting my mistake.

Pats self on head.