A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet THREAD 2

[Boiledbeetle]

Thread 1:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4776556-a-mumsnet-thread-about-a-book-about-a-mumsnet-thread-under-the-duvet-of-darkness-written-by-the-women-of-mumsnet?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

You do not need to have read thread 1 – this is not that sort of thread.

But to recap… Over Christmas and New Year after the passing of the GRR (Scotland) Bill a thread was started with a poem about Nicola Sturgeon. Eventually on that thread (and a couple of other threads) over 80 poems were written.

“Under the Duvet of Darkness: Poems written by angry women for angry women because WOMEN WON’T WHEESHT” was published as a paperback on 31st March 2023.

Available on Amazon only: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C129WKDD

In a rather bizarre turn of events at one point it reached No 2 in poetry best sellers and No 5 in Feminist Criticism best sellers. No one will be surprised to discover that a book that is in the main about people, especially men, claiming to be something they are not was kept off the No1 spot in poetry best sellers by a crime novel, identifying as poetry, written by a man ;-)

E-BOOK:

Some people wanted an e-book rather than a paperback, but for that we needed someone who could actually make an e-book and some extra poems.

FairyKindleMother came to the rescue with regards the e-book and posters wrote enough poems that we could add 20 more poems into the e-book.

I pressed publish on the e-book a few hours ago. It can take usually up to 3 days to appear and populate all the info etc on the various sites, and there is always the chance they knock it back for some reason. But I've done all I can do at this point. We just have to wait and see who spots it on sale first! It will appear on the Amazon link above hopefully soon, (or I'll get an email asking me to change something).

MONEY FROM SALES OF ALL FORMATS:

In honour of Magdalen Berns, who co-founded the Scottish campaign group For Women Scotland, 100% of the profit from the sale of this book will be donated to For Women Scotland.

“It’s not hate to defend your rights, and it’s not hate to speak the truth.”
Magdalen Berns (1983 – 2019)

As I started work on the e-book posters continued to write poems. So we had a choice: leave them there, languishing on the thread, unloved, forgotten, never to have their words uttered again OR we could just do volume 2.

Posters voted for Volume 2 but we still need more poems!

And that’s the gist of thread 1.

The nerve of people being vile about me wanting same-sex care. People asking ‘what about lesbians’ is homophobic, they are women. This isn’t about sexuality, it’s about sex. I’ve been told I have an agenda, not wanting men to touch me is not an agenda.

Henrietta Freeman

ooh , nice! I shall have choices!!

Bugger i'm supposed to be writing the introduction not faffing on the internet.

slopes back off to the word document tab.

It's been a while but I've had a vague urge to be helpful and turned up this -

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4234897-Nicola-Sturgeon-says-she-is-feminist-to-her-fingertips

I'm not on Twitter or whatever Elon's named it this week, but if you are then hopefully you can find the origins of this remark?

Right, if anyone sees

@Britinme
@Ritasueandbobtoo9
@Somanyquestionstoaskaboutthis
@TheBiologyStupid

anywhere on the board (as im trying not to read threads as I keep losing an hour each time I do that) can you tell them I'm looking for them

thank you very muchly

(i just love outsourcing work!)

Ah damn that's not the link I meant to post. It was this one

https://twitter.com/chrisdeerin/status/1388860234807009281

Bloody MN keeps freezing and crashing on me, so I've taken to just posting wildly when I can. Sorry .

Calling all those who have a good grasp of the English language and know the difference between where you use a dash, a semi colon or a colon and can spot lousy sentence construction.

So, is anyone an English teacher... a decent English teacher preferably!

At some point soon (god, please let it be soon) I'm probably going to need someone to read through and pick up the fuck ups (at the moment there's enough of them that even I can spot them).

Of course the plus side is you will get to read the whole thing first.

The downside is you get to read the whole thing! Oh, and highlight the errors.

"We did not demand single-sex spaces because we are shrinking violets that would faint at the sight of male genitalia, but because of the well-founded fear of sexual assault and domestic abuse."

Julie Bindel
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/10/03/women-only-wards-nhs-trans-activists-defeat/

Oops. Finally saw this call to action@Boiledbeetle
Sorry you had to hound me down. I hang my head in shame 😔

Amazing work on pulling this together 💐🏅and also a well done to all who contributed 👏👏👏👏👏👏

Tomorrow tomorrow there's always tomorrow, tomorrow's a day away!

It's a busy day court day tomorrow Jo Phoenix AND the For Women Scotland case

https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/the-courts/supreme-courts/about-the-court-of-session/livestream-hearings/case-P578-22

I’m here @Boiledbeetle - what can I do for you? No problem if all you want is to use my work.

That was all I was after you for, just making sure everyone is still happy to have their stuff in volume 2.

Thank you 😘

As you were.

Hey there @bonfirelady nice to see you

I have @Terf_Rocks decorations

Does happy dance around the living room! (in my head anyway)

@Boiledbeetle

I tried to DM but couldn't work out how to do it on my phone so just pasting my lasted version. Later than I planned having a bad week with one of my kids

Violation

When asked what is a woman
You force men into our word
When I call this a violation
I’m told don’t be absurd

I am a woman my sex bears the children
“But not all women can or want to do that”
Trans women are men so childbirth doesn’t include them
No surgery can give them a child making t**t

I am a women, sometimes I will bleed.
Not all of us no but when we don’t the emotions are strong
Trans women cant have periods because he’s a he.
Equating that to female amenoreah is so wrong

Men are not women. They can’t have our word
Woman is more than make up or clothes we wear
They take our words anyway we are unheard
if we protest we are harmed so we live in fear

I do not consent, I do not consent!
You are removing my female rights and freedoms
You say silly woman doesn’t know what she meant
Woman’s lack of acceptance is really the problem

Men are now women. They seek to erase us
Women constructed by male interpretation
The world let’s them do it as it is misogynus
Woman is just a hole to stick a d**k in

Things meant for women go to men now
Our statistics, our spaces, our funding our medals
Speak up you get slurs turf bigot dinosaur cow
Wanting fair treatment is transphobic twaddle

Men bring your power against us to subjugate
Police, umbrellas, legislation men wield them all
Real women are suffering male sexist hate
Men will do anything to just see us fall

Our children are brainwashed. transition they push it
Porn as sex Ed yet we can’t pull them out
Transing gay kids, trans the autistics
If a parent objects that’s transphobic you shout

Men are lesbians. We must accept it
Woman forbidden to reject natal men
They suffer for saying they just don’t want dick.
So straight they must be so ought to transition

We are told to deny them is to actually hate speech
I say trans ops on kids is abuse mutilation
I say we will speak other women we reach
And I say men=women is a utter violation

@PurpleBugz Thank you! I'll swap it over when I turn the laptop on. I just need five more minutezzzzzzz

A woman is just
a little girl who grew up.
Growing up is hard.

If you have the space and inclination for a haiku @Boiledbeetle just for you

@PurpleBugz i've sent you a PM

ooh, I shall stick it in my pocket for now, can't promise anything but I may find a little space for it somewhere.

totally cool either way @Boiledbeetle I think you're doing an awesome job

it may have just slipped its way into a chapter when I went to make a cup of tea!

A man in a frock
Is just a man in a frock.
It ain’t no woman.

Something to go with your tea. 😊

Hickory dickory dock
A man is a man
Not a woman with a cock.

Little Bo Peep
Has ovaries fast asleep
Now that their work is done
But she's still a real woman

Little Jack Horner
Sat in a corner
Adjusting his wig and frilly clothes
I may have a cock
but I rock this frock
And these pink panty hose

That's nice dear I said
But shiny new threads
Won't make you the woman
Who prances in your head
You'll always be a man you see
Your cock, balls and xy mean you'll never be me.

i hate the bloody lot of you.

with a passion!