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Let Women Speak Birmingham - 2 women assaulted?

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IwantToRetire · 14/05/2023 22:52

I forgot to tune in earlier today, so hope everyone is okay and the event went well.
Will try to watch later

Reference to women being assaulted here https://www.birminghamworld.uk/news/birmingham-posie-parker-trans-activists-protest-4142122

Let Women Speak - Birmingham #LetWomenSpeak #LetWomenSpeakBirmingham

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0GqS3-1N88

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Helleofabore · 16/05/2023 09:53

Datun · 16/05/2023 09:24

This is why I think these wankers shouting at women and getting aroused by it, are not just TRAs, but more pervy misogynists who just enjoy it.

You see it on here all the time. Ridiculous, childish, really basic posts designed purely to goad women.

What violent thug/pervert/woman hater wouldn't be up for an afternoon of intimidating women. They even get to assault them, while the police watch. Boners n all.

So true.

Datun · 16/05/2023 09:57

Personally, although women's responses to a lot of these goaders does give women a chance to put forward their argument, and of course, any lurkers will see, the reason why a lot of MRAs like popping on here is precisely because we give them comprehensive answers.

Although, I'm guessing it's not about the content, but far more about the quantity. One or two provocative words in their post will generate three or four responses.

It's attention seeking you can see from space.

Some men just find it exciting, of course. Any attention is better than the none they get irl.

Helleofabore · 16/05/2023 09:58

Helleofabore · 16/05/2023 07:47

Victim blaming shows your concern to be false. You are still dismissing violence against women and girls on a feminist forum!

So let’s see:

It is just a cream pie!

It is just water!

Leave teenage children at home!

All because women say words you don’t agree with.

Just so Merlin doesn’t miss this. This one is for you Merlin.

No magic hides your history of dismissing violence against women and girls. If you are seriously unable to understand that you are incapable of acknowledging the violence, why are to you telling people they shouldn’t go because it is unsafe!

you cannot have it both ways.

Either you are a misogynistic hypocrite, or you are not able to understand what you post. Which is it?

MavisMcMinty · 16/05/2023 10:01

But the “rise” they inevitably get always debunks their arguments/position. It’s themselves they make look stupid, not the people they bait.

Helleofabore · 16/05/2023 10:03

MavisMcMinty · 16/05/2023 09:49

I’ve been here on Mumsnet for 6 months now, and have seen a lot of Merlin’s posts in that time, along with a handful of other trans defenders.

I have never seen any of those posts or posters change anyone’s mind, but I have seen a lot of women persuaded by the considered, educated, persuasive reason posted by scores and scores of clever articulate women.

I wonder why Merlin and their handful of mates continue with their laughable lies and their gaslighting? What’s in it for them? Being humiliated day after day, is that the attraction? Is it a fetish? Masochism? Just larks? Bantz? Boredom? Obsession? Attention-seeking?

Can’t help thinking those posters would enjoy Twitter more than MN.

It has been said that some posters are feminist plants who are doing just that, the opportunity to give posters a chance to reply with wonderfully eloquent posts.

But the amount of dismissal of violence that some posters do, surely would take a lot of dedication for a feminist, or a lot of hatred for Kellie Jay Keen. And that is possible too. I have seen a couple of posters do that as well.

Datun · 16/05/2023 10:06

MavisMcMinty · 16/05/2023 10:01

But the “rise” they inevitably get always debunks their arguments/position. It’s themselves they make look stupid, not the people they bait.

I know. It's counterintuitive, isn't it!

It appears that looking stupid to loads of women is still preferable to being ignored.

ArabeIIaScott · 16/05/2023 10:11

Datun · 16/05/2023 10:06

I know. It's counterintuitive, isn't it!

It appears that looking stupid to loads of women is still preferable to being ignored.

Some people like being humiliated.

nilsmousehammer · 16/05/2023 12:45

Datun · 16/05/2023 09:57

Personally, although women's responses to a lot of these goaders does give women a chance to put forward their argument, and of course, any lurkers will see, the reason why a lot of MRAs like popping on here is precisely because we give them comprehensive answers.

Although, I'm guessing it's not about the content, but far more about the quantity. One or two provocative words in their post will generate three or four responses.

It's attention seeking you can see from space.

Some men just find it exciting, of course. Any attention is better than the none they get irl.

Not to mention the, er, 'interesting' blokes who get off on women scolding them.

Alwaystheweather · 16/05/2023 13:01

Datun · 16/05/2023 09:24

This is why I think these wankers shouting at women and getting aroused by it, are not just TRAs, but more pervy misogynists who just enjoy it.

You see it on here all the time. Ridiculous, childish, really basic posts designed purely to goad women.

What violent thug/pervert/woman hater wouldn't be up for an afternoon of intimidating women. They even get to assault them, while the police watch. Boners n all.

I suspect there’s a porn influence there too. Any guy aroused by being aggressive and threatening to women has probably programmed himself to be aroused by this via violent, misogynistic porn.

nilsmousehammer · 16/05/2023 13:14

I can't help remembering that joy who used to post on the MS website about how he liked to get into a state of undress in the women's changing rooms and leave the curtain half open to his cubicle in the hope that a female type would think it was empty, walk in, and <wibble> tell him off

Happy happy penis.

Gawd how he must gladden his mother's heart. What a wonderful way to spend a life.

MoltenLasagne · 16/05/2023 13:24

The "protestors" at these events care less about the cause than about getting the chance to shout and intimidate women. It reminds of the thugs that turn up at football games supposedly defending the honour of their team but really just enjoying the violence.

Except of course the football hooligans at least had the decency to only attack other men who had also agreed to turn up for a fight rather than women and girls half their size. Slow clap for the TRAs for making look good.

SinnerBoy · 16/05/2023 13:27

*nilsmousehammer" · Today 13:14

I can't help remembering that joy who used to post on the MS website about how he liked to get into a state of undress in the women's changing rooms...

Is it too awful to hope that he had a mishap with the lift doors, on the way out.

Pixiedust1234 · 16/05/2023 13:34

Yes Molten. I have thought this since PP started doing her events if truth be told. They are the new and improved Millwall thugs from the 80s/90s before football supporters were corralled and funnelled into certain paths by hundreds of police, some mounted, some with riot shields. I remember those days vividly where normal people tried their hardest to avoid going out on match days due to the violence. Half the shops would shut and board up their windows.

It wasn't about football, or team loyalty. It was just about violence. They feasted on blood, pain and fear and it was a frightening time. Those types have sons and grandsons.

Datun · 16/05/2023 15:46

Alwaystheweather · 16/05/2023 13:01

I suspect there’s a porn influence there too. Any guy aroused by being aggressive and threatening to women has probably programmed himself to be aroused by this via violent, misogynistic porn.

Oh yeah, untold hours would've been spent feverishly fine-tuning their porn to give them boner opportunities when being violent at women in real life.

What a waste of a life to spend your entire time addling yourself with ever increasing porn consumption.

ClimieFissure · 16/05/2023 17:06

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Norma27 · 16/05/2023 17:17

I think I’ve been in contact with them @ClimieFissure. he was released.
Unfortunately the thug with an erection who threatened me then went squeaking to police wasn’t arrested. No doubt you are happy with that though?

IwantToRetire · 16/05/2023 17:17

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Norma27 · 16/05/2023 17:20

We all know these thugs don’t actually care about gender non confirming people. They just want to bully women into silence. Well fuck off. We will always stand against you violent misogynists.

Norma27 · 16/05/2023 17:21

After spending hours with the stewards this weekend I have totally found my power. You misogynist, violent men will never win. And you hated that in Birmingham this weekend.

IwantToRetire · 16/05/2023 17:31

Puzzled. Why would a comment about MRAs which I have made on other threads have been deleted.

Have read the guidelines and just dont understand.

Would appreciate help as I think I have reached my limit on deletions and dont want to be banned, but also dont want to be banned and not understand why. :'(

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ArabeIIaScott · 16/05/2023 17:40

Not sure, IwanttoRetire. You can report your post or email MN and ask for clarification.

Villagetoraiseachild · 16/05/2023 18:07

A bit late to this thread but I am so sorry that violence against women and young women occurred in Brum at LWS.

I would just like to add that @IwantToRetire is a much valued member of this community who starts excellent threads and evidently a person of high integrity.
I cannot say the same of the individual lurking under the title of @MerlinsLostMarbles .

Where is you moral compass, moderators at Mumsnet?
Where is your moral compass?
Please open your eyes and catch on!

I will probably get reported by one of the derailing collective
and deleted.
We see you. We see you.

IwantToRetire · 16/05/2023 18:11

ooooh @Villagetoraiseachild thank you for your kind words. Quite honestly I am feeling more than a little stupid as I cant work out what I did (apart from repeat a comment I often make).

I need some clever app to check my comments as clearly I'm not smart enough.

But will contact MNHQ as suggested up thread, and if they explain will repeat what ever it is to myself before posting in future.

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Villagetoraiseachild · 16/05/2023 18:22

Good Luck then.
It's great that clarification can be provided....

ApocalipstickNow · 16/05/2023 18:32

nilsmousehammer · 16/05/2023 12:45

Not to mention the, er, 'interesting' blokes who get off on women scolding them.

I think it’s obvious that there are posters here who post the most inane things (amongst the other shit they post) who then have pages and pages of women basically laughing at their stupidity and it’s arousing for them because they’ve probably got a thing about humiliation.

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