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A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet

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Boiledbeetle · 02/04/2023 14:09

For once we can do a thread about a new book where all the writers are actually on this very board!

Some of you know what I have been up to recently, when I can tear myself away from posting twaddle, gifs and sweary words in bigly letters on here, but for the rest of you…

Over Christmas and New Year after the passing of the GRR (Scotland) Bill a thread was started by TerfranosaurusVagina on the Mumsnet FWR board with a poem about Nicola Sturgeon. Eventually on that thread (and a couple of other threads) over 80 poems were written.

Ramblingnamechanger suggested we do something with them to raise funds to help the women of Scotland and whilst Dodecaheidyin was tempted to write to Poetry Please on Radio 4, and ask them to do an extended special for Hogmanay about our poems, in the end it was decided to make the thread into a book.

After much procrastination by me “Under the Duvet of Darkness: Poems written by angry women for angry women because WOMEN WON’T WHEESHT” went live on Amazon on 31st March

https://amzn.eu/d/98aEnJy

If searching on the site you need to:

Select BOOKS as the department and UNDER THE DUVET OF DARKNESS in the search box.

Currently it doesn’t show up in the main all departments search (I don’t know why or if it will, it takes a while for everything to work properly according to Amazon).

Theres also a QR code below which should take you right there (hopefully the attached works)

MONEY FROM SALES:

In honour of Magdalen Berns, who co-founded the Scottish campaign group For Women Scotland, 100% of the profit from the sale of this book will be donated to For Women Scotland.*

*Please note that whilst the profit will be donated to For Women Scotland they are not involved, nor are they responsible in any way for the themes, contents or publication of this book.

“It’s not hate to defend your rights, and it’s not hate to speak the truth.”

Magdalen Berns (1983 – 2019)

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet
A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet
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Boiledbeetle · 09/04/2023 13:26

Ffs let's try again
For the historical angle bonus chapter what's notable that's happened since end March?

need to do a couple of paragraphs so..

Scottish
humza and stats of votes
NS and hubbies spring clean and garden party
???
other
KJK and New Zealand
????
if anyone fancies finding the stars and the dates it would save me an hour of faffing....

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beastlyslumber · 09/04/2023 16:32

My terf book arrived!

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet
TessoftheDurbeyfields · 09/04/2023 16:40

Here's my effort - will keep trying to produce something better!

There was a young woman called Sturgeon
Who thought men and women should merge in
She did not give a fret
For women and their get
But no longer her career does it burgeon

Boiledbeetle · 09/04/2023 17:04

@beastlyslumber Ooh photo 😍my long stuffing collage maker will be swearing! She's just sent me an image.

It's currently on my phone I'll post it later.. But I'm hoping she'll have to make another at some point with more photos!

@TessoftheDurbeyfields Ooh poem 😘😘

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DialSquare · 09/04/2023 17:24

Had a bit of time earlier so ordered another two copies. Will put in the book exchange boxes next time I'm near them.

TessoftheDurbeyfields · 09/04/2023 18:19

I might be on a roll....
There once was a woman called Nic
Who couldn't say no to a dick
When they asked for women's rights
She handed them out with their tights
But had to leave Bute double-quick

TessoftheDurbeyfields · 09/04/2023 18:19

I can only do (bad) limericks

turbonerd · 09/04/2023 18:23

Is it still for sale?
It doesn’t come up when I search for it on Amazon 🙄
I am crap at anything online on my phone, though, and also not in the UK.

Somanyquestionstoaskaboutthis · 09/04/2023 18:33

I may not be clever
i may not be smart
But I know if someone has a penis
A woman they aren’t

I’ve put hours of work in to that, lost sleep and all, then you’ve gone and put criteria out for subjects. Huff.

Somanyquestionstoaskaboutthis · 09/04/2023 18:35

turbonerd · 09/04/2023 18:23

Is it still for sale?
It doesn’t come up when I search for it on Amazon 🙄
I am crap at anything online on my phone, though, and also not in the UK.

You have to just search books for it to come up, not whole site. Though you may get some lovely new bed linen if you do

Boiledbeetle · 09/04/2023 18:37

turbonerd · 09/04/2023 18:23

Is it still for sale?
It doesn’t come up when I search for it on Amazon 🙄
I am crap at anything online on my phone, though, and also not in the UK.

if you tell me where you are I'll send you a link to your Amazon (you can pm me if you don't want to say on here). Or try selecting books rather than all departments in the search option and type in Under the Duvet of Darkness.

A friend in France had to also search English books.

Unfortunately because of the language it is marked as adult content! So won't show in general search.

But it is available worldwide.

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Boiledbeetle · 09/04/2023 18:39

Somanyquestionstoaskaboutthis · 09/04/2023 18:33

I may not be clever
i may not be smart
But I know if someone has a penis
A woman they aren’t

I’ve put hours of work in to that, lost sleep and all, then you’ve gone and put criteria out for subjects. Huff.

Ooh thank you!

It wasn't criteria just wondering what i needed to update in the general potted history of things that have happened since Nicola quit.

The poems are all going in together x

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Boiledbeetle · 09/04/2023 18:39

TessoftheDurbeyfields · 09/04/2023 18:19

I might be on a roll....
There once was a woman called Nic
Who couldn't say no to a dick
When they asked for women's rights
She handed them out with their tights
But had to leave Bute double-quick

Once you start its hard to stop!🐱

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Boiledbeetle · 09/04/2023 18:44

DialSquare · 09/04/2023 17:24

Had a bit of time earlier so ordered another two copies. Will put in the book exchange boxes next time I'm near them.

Thank you Dial.

We've sold a whopping 4 so far today!. But as I neglected Twitter yesterday I'm not surprised!

I'm just happy People keep buying it...(looks at 150 copies sat in hallway!)

I sent a tweet out earlier that's had a few clicks through to the Amazon page so hopefully that should garner some sales!

A Mumsnet thread about a book about a Mumsnet thread “Under the Duvet of Darkness” written by the women of Mumsnet
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TessoftheDurbeyfields · 09/04/2023 19:21

There once was a female First Minister
Whose feminism was really quite sinister
She pushed through a law
Expecting considerable awe
But soon had to leave in a blur

TessoftheDurbeyfields · 09/04/2023 19:59

There once was a country called Scotland
Where being a terf was all-but banned
The law that was passed
Had feminists aghast
But Nicola's reign was finally canned

TessoftheDurbeyfields · 09/04/2023 19:59

I can keep going if you need me to!

Britinme · 09/04/2023 20:06

If a person has a penis he's a man
If a person has a penis he's a man
If a person has a penis
We don't have to have seen it
To know that means the person is a man

If a person has a cervix she's a girl
If a person has a cervix she's a girl
If a person has a cervix
Even though it makes men nervous
If a person has a cervix she's a girl

When you're born we all can see what sex you are
When you're born we all can see what sex you are
When you're born we all can see it
So why not just go and be it
When you're born we all can see what sex you are.

Britinme · 09/04/2023 20:07

To the tune of "if you're happy and you know it"

Brokendaughter · 09/04/2023 20:10

I'm starting to worry what might be in this book now.

I've got a message from DPD saying that they will deliver it on Tuesday but it includes this ominous message...

"Please note, your driver is unable to leave this item safe"

Boiledbeetle · 09/04/2023 20:22

@TessoftheDurbeyfields You knock yourself out love you have no idea how much i'm enjoying seeing poems that aren't the 80 in the book!

@Britinme Like your style!😂

@Brokendaughter ??? !!!😶

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TessoftheDurbeyfields · 09/04/2023 20:30

Britinme · 09/04/2023 20:06

If a person has a penis he's a man
If a person has a penis he's a man
If a person has a penis
We don't have to have seen it
To know that means the person is a man

If a person has a cervix she's a girl
If a person has a cervix she's a girl
If a person has a cervix
Even though it makes men nervous
If a person has a cervix she's a girl

When you're born we all can see what sex you are
When you're born we all can see what sex you are
When you're born we all can see it
So why not just go and be it
When you're born we all can see what sex you are.

I love it!

Boiledbeetle · 09/04/2023 20:41

So.....

currently we are on an additional 16 poems so 80 plus 16 = 96....

4 more! then its a round 100!

I mean it doesn't have to be. it could be more it could be less...or like porridge it could be just right!

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TessoftheDurbeyfields · 09/04/2023 20:57

I'm working on it!

Somanyquestionstoaskaboutthis · 09/04/2023 21:02

There’s a lot of female athletes
Who don’t get sponsored for their training, food or competition
But that’s all ok
Because men have a way
Of getting sponsored instead with their dick in
Women’s leggings, and their flat chest in sports bras
So women be kind
His need is more than ours

Mmm not sure about the flow
Of the poem but behold
A man with a tampon
To help me with my flow
ok now it’s stopped being a poem
but he can FUCK RIGHT OFF

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