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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transition should lead to rapist's acquittal

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ArabellaScott · 24/01/2023 12:19

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11667731/Transgender-rapist-accused-attacking-women-transitioning-vulnerable-court-hears.html

According to this KC.

'[Edward Targowski KC] spoke about Bryson's gender, saying: 'She is transitioning from male to female gender.

'If you accept that evidence, that she is transitioning, that she is aiming to continue on that path to becoming female gender, that goes a long way to acquitting her of these charges.'

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ArabellaScott · 24/01/2023 15:59

He's remanded to a woman's prison.

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NewBootsAndRanty · 24/01/2023 16:02

Ffs

Signalbox · 24/01/2023 16:17

yestheyhavethesamedad · 24/01/2023 15:35

@redpomegranate according to the daily mail they have been sent to cornton vale womans prison whilst awaiting sentencing

No way!

CandlelightGlow · 24/01/2023 19:00

ArabellaScott · 24/01/2023 15:59

He's remanded to a woman's prison.

Absolute bloody ridiculous travesty.

I'm not usually cynical but he's obviously bloody anticipated being convicted for his heinous crimes.

Now women get to be in prison with a literal male rapist. This precedent has to end.

SinnerBoy · 24/01/2023 19:01

Legally, no, but morally?

AutumnCrow · 24/01/2023 19:08

The Mail Online is leading with the story - including many illuminating photos - here

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11670803/Transgender-woman-guilty-raping-two-women-man.html

I keep checking the Guardian website but can't seem to find a report.

Mythicalcreatures · 24/01/2023 19:12

Absolute disgrace, how can women's safety be less than a man's fantasy. Feminist to my fingertips Nicola this is partly your fault and I don't imagine you give a toss

GrabbyGabby · 24/01/2023 19:18

So if gender confusion can be used as a mitigating factor for a sexual offence in a court of law, why cant we use it as a safeguarding consideration, and exclude men with gender issues from our spaces?

IcakedefargeIam · 24/01/2023 19:19

If the 'but I'm transitioning' defence had got him off worked. I don't believe there is anything that would have stopped him changing his mind one the not guilty verdict was in.

Also, imo it evidently was a risky defence. In order for it to work didn't he have to pretty much confess he was a rapist.

It's appalling he's been sent to a women's prison. I hope some good come from this. I hope they take care of the actual female inmates and the female prison guards.

ErrolTheDragon · 24/01/2023 19:21

Mentioned on R4 news this evening - something like 'a transgender woman was convicted of a rape she committed when she was a man'.

Well, at least they reported it and I doubt many people doubt 'she' is still a man.

Clymene · 24/01/2023 19:23

This is the man who committed the rapes when he was a man. Twitter also has photos of him wearing leggings where his male genitals are clearly visible.

Transition should lead to rapist's acquittal
Endpress · 24/01/2023 19:26

A women’s prison full of women convicted of crimes such as shoplifting and drugs, which have probably arisen largely due to earlier sex based abuse.

Clymene · 24/01/2023 19:31

This single man represents nearly 3% of the women's prison population of Scotland.

Scottish women (the cunty kind) make up 4% of the entire prison population

Source: Sturgeon's government www.gov.scot/publications/scottish-prison-population-statistics-2021-22/pages/5/

Villagetoraiseachild · 24/01/2023 19:42

Is there a petition on this?
Specifically on prisons?
Or does it come under the other petitions we are currently signing?

Sazzasez · 24/01/2023 19:43

I think the use of “acquitting” is what burns my bacon the most here.

Acquittal would mean the bloke didn’t commit the rapes or that his mental state was such he couldn’t morally know it was wrong to rape. Which afaik they’re not arguing.

But in fact the defence lawyer is claiming that the “transition journey” this rapist is supposedly on is a mitigating factor.

Unless the implication is that they’re so mentally ill they’re morally incapable?

It’s a really poor choice of words.

Villagetoraiseachild · 24/01/2023 19:45

Not trying to cross thread. Just wondering what action can be taken other than being outraged......

onitlikeacarbonnet · 24/01/2023 19:46

GrabbyGabby · 24/01/2023 19:18

So if gender confusion can be used as a mitigating factor for a sexual offence in a court of law, why cant we use it as a safeguarding consideration, and exclude men with gender issues from our spaces?

This!!!!

ArabellaScott · 24/01/2023 19:56

Villagetoraiseachild · 24/01/2023 19:45

Not trying to cross thread. Just wondering what action can be taken other than being outraged......

Make noise.

Talk to people.

Write letters.

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BeBraveLittlePenguin · 24/01/2023 20:42

ArabellaScott · 24/01/2023 12:19

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11667731/Transgender-rapist-accused-attacking-women-transitioning-vulnerable-court-hears.html

According to this KC.

'[Edward Targowski KC] spoke about Bryson's gender, saying: 'She is transitioning from male to female gender.

'If you accept that evidence, that she is transitioning, that she is aiming to continue on that path to becoming female gender, that goes a long way to acquitting her of these charges.'

Well they didn't acquit. Does that mean the jury don't accept he's transitioning?

And since there are a lot more jurors than tribunal members deciding GRCs, shouldn't that mean he can't get a GRC since he's clearly not in good faith?

Yes, he he he blah blah. Everyone knows the fucking truth here 🙄

yestheyhavethesamedad · 24/01/2023 23:07

Stv didnt even acknowledge it on the 10.30pm news and on the 6.30 news it was " a transgenderwoman commited rape whilst a man" can they actually hear themselves , the segment lasted about 2 mins , then a segment about how trans hate has risen complete with flags ect and tagged onto the end is "oh but racial hate is the most prolific" . They spent more time talking about a low level team winning a football game than a rapist being placed in a womans prison , stv is an snp mouth piece

Transparent2 · 25/01/2023 00:05

AutumnCrow · 24/01/2023 19:08

The Mail Online is leading with the story - including many illuminating photos - here

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11670803/Transgender-woman-guilty-raping-two-women-man.html

I keep checking the Guardian website but can't seem to find a report.

There is one, but I had to search for it:

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/24/glasgow-court-convicts-trans-woman-of-raping-two-women-before-her-transition?

WagnersFourthSymphony · 25/01/2023 00:56

Haven't RTFT but am reminded of the sad adage that so many females discover they are transgender while going through puberty and so many males discover it while going through the penal process.

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