Please help! Gender not sex on a school 'protected characteristics' poster, just spoken to the Head!

[Vebrithien]

Good morning,

I started this thread before Christmas

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4684558-today-i-found-my-bravery?page=1

The overview is that my DD's primary school is displaying posters by No Outsiders, which are supposed to show the 9 protected characteristics, but shows gender, not sex.

The (male) deputy head I mentioned it to, before Christmas, has not got back to me. The posters are still there.

I summoned up my courage this morning, and spoke to the Headteacher. She seemed surprised, as I said I'd already mentioned it to one deputy head, and that I'd picked up on it due to my school expecting Ofsted, and reissuing our equality training.

The Head said that it was surprising, as No Outsiders were an organisation whose specialism was equalities.

I replied that the EA2010 says sex, not gender. I also mentioned that there were some concerning resources produced by them, including an assembly where a dad wants to offer violence to children who do not accept his trans child. (I know no more than this)

The Head is going to talk to her other deputy head, whose responsibility this is, and to try to put us in contact.

Where do I do from here?

Can any one help me with evidence? What particularly is dodgy about No Outsiders?

Is there anything that states that schools mustn't misrepresent the EA?

Is there any DofE (or whatever it's called now) guidance for schools on the resources they used or how they represent the EA?

And, how should I go about finding out if the school uses other No Outsiders resources?

Please help, I want as much evidence as I can.

Still shaking with adrenaline from speaking to the Head!

In this instance the greater good is served by a trans women’s desires trumping the desires of those women who don’t want trans women in women’s prisons. Yes, absolutely.

To run with the 'consent' analogy - if six women are in a changing room and five say they are fine changing in front of males but one woman says 'no', then that is the voice that carries.

So the males come first.

Got it.

In this instance the greater good is served by a trans women’s desires trumping the desires of those women who don’t want trans women in women’s prisons. Yes, absolutely.

You've given up on the "win-win" then?

Not is risk is managed effectively

So if a male person is psychologically female does this mean 'she' has ovaries in her brain and can give birth out of her ear? If not, please explain what psychologically female means.

A male's desire to be in a female space trumps the woman's right to say no. Amazing.

And the male is the most oppressed.

It is truly amazing.

And the risk of the male person triggering PTSD in women? How is that managed? Women are forced to shower with transwomen in prison, did you know that? Women have been raped and at least one impregnated in the US.

But you know, 'greater good'.

So we were right all along.
Weird that TRAs lied and said we weren't.

Thanks for proving my point ELO - I'm getting a bit of Poe's law here but keep it up.

Always love it when male supremacism reveals itself on a feminist board full of women.
Women - know your place as support humans for sad men (and sex offenders)

' the greater good is served by a trans women’s desires trumping the desires of those women

This thread needs to be shared with the break it down for me thread when ever anyone comes here asking questions about this ideology.

Not is risk is managed effectively

So what you're saying is that the women who don't want men in their cells will find out it's not so bad and come to like it, and hence be better off, or what?

Or else what's the "win" for them?

Is it that the men are substituting for more dangerous female prisoners, who will be sent off to the men's prison, so the women are safer?

(Sorry to be coming up with these ridiculous suggestions, but it's a real struggle to see how women are supposed to "win" in your plan).

One in a nation of 300 million!

Yeah, so fuck her, right?

She matters less.

clearly.

But at least that transwoman was validated and also gratified. Thank god.

Go Scotland! England next!

Tras normally try not to say the quiet bit out loud (especially on a thread that's ostensibly about schools and children). But as we repeatedly see, breaching boundaries is evidently a feature, not a bug.

I don't know about you, but if I was the trans lobby I'd definitely use this person to manage their public "hearts and minds" advertising/PR campaign.

Is this some sort of code? No idea what you’re on about.

still curious why one poster suggested lesbians are more likely to be transphobic?

Good idea - add them to the ever expanding list of those insisting that women and children's rights to say no don't matter.