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Kellie-Jay's New Political Party

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TheBadLuckOfTeelaBrown · 07/12/2022 13:34

I can't see a thread on this, but she is starting a new party and will run in elections.

twitter.com/StandingforXX/status/1600235830475653123?s=20&t=hhlXpo7uErB4FlkFj1nSRA

www.theotherparty.co.uk

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solsburyjill · 08/12/2022 23:36

Onnabugeisha · 08/12/2022 23:30

Here’s a more recent collaboration with Sargon of Akkad
www.lotuseaters.com/premium-video-interview-with-posie-parker-30-05-21

He's a lovely man, just a really lovely man

Kellie-Jay's New Political Party
Kellie-Jay's New Political Party
Onnabugeisha · 08/12/2022 23:42

solsburyjill · 08/12/2022 23:36

He's a lovely man, just a really lovely man

Oh yes, he not only thinks rape joke are hil-ar-ious but so are racist jokes
”Ukip candidate Carl Benjamin defends use of N-word by saying: 'I find racist jokes funny'”
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/carl-benjamin-ukip-racism-youtube-sargon-akkad-mep-a8887696.html

Datun · 08/12/2022 23:44

beastlyslumber · 08/12/2022 23:21

And I cannot wait to see the billboards. I imagine there will be a fair sprinkling of adult human females, but given her knack for creative marketing, I'm looking forward to seeing what else she comes up with.

I can't wait, honestly! It's going to be brilliant. I will also be donating as much as I can. Hope there's LOADS of merch, too!

Oh yes, she can really run riot with the merchandise. And that's another thing that infuriates the fuck out of TRAs, of course.

namitynamechange · 08/12/2022 23:52

Carl Benjamin's campaign gave him the opportunity to air his ideas and views to the general public and be challenged on them, and to hold them up for comparison against the political mainstream. Given what his views actually were I don't think this was much of an win for him.
If Posie Parkers views (that women shouldn't be locked up with male rapists in prisons etc) prove equally illogical/incoherent against the well thought out, rational, compassionate views of labour then I guess the whole thing will backfire horribly on her. I am not holding my breath for that to happen.

WomaninBoots · 08/12/2022 23:57

Unless any of the "proper good perfect" "feminists" are going to start their own political party and go toe to toe with Stamer to shed a shit tonne of sunlight on this issue they can fuck the fuck off with their criticism of KJK as far as I'm concerned.

Onnabugeisha · 08/12/2022 23:58

KJK is also connected to Hearts of Oak
”On Sunday, 18 September the group “Standing for Women” organised an open rally in Brighton to discuss women’s rights. The group is led by Kellie-Jay Keen…..Live streaming from that event was a group called “Hearts Of Oak”. Not many of us have heard of them, but its members were at the front of the inner circle of the rally. It is important that women ask why they were there and what should be done about it. What is attractive about women’s work in this area to men like this? This group campaigns on issues of “free speech” but also against Islam and with a focus on “National Identity and Patriotism” amongst others. This would place it as a clear successor to the English Defence League (EDL) — a nationalist group which has now gone into decline….. For over a decade the de-facto far-right leader in the UK was Tommy Robinson, whose real name is Steven Yaxley-Lennon — the ex-leader of the English Defence League…. He has been platformed of late by “Hearts of Oak”, whose speaker at the event “Our Children, Our Country” hailed him as a “national legend”…. Carl “Sargon of Akkad” Benjamin, the man who said he “wouldn’t even rape you … feminism is cancer” to Jess Phillips, has also been platformed by Hearts of Oak.”

thecritic.co.uk/men-of-the-far-right-and-the-womens-movement/

Kellie-Jay's New Political Party
Janie143 · 08/12/2022 23:59

WomaninBoots · 08/12/2022 23:57

Unless any of the "proper good perfect" "feminists" are going to start their own political party and go toe to toe with Stamer to shed a shit tonne of sunlight on this issue they can fuck the fuck off with their criticism of KJK as far as I'm concerned.

Well said 👏

IneedanewTV · 09/12/2022 00:17

I don’t care what she has done or said in the past. All I know is that she knows what a woman is and know how to defend our rights. We all know, deep down, that you can’t change sex. So I really can’t wait for her to start her political campaign. She is also highly intelligent, sassy and sexy - so will get a lot of Male voters too.

Datun · 09/12/2022 00:17

WomaninBoots · 08/12/2022 23:57

Unless any of the "proper good perfect" "feminists" are going to start their own political party and go toe to toe with Stamer to shed a shit tonne of sunlight on this issue they can fuck the fuck off with their criticism of KJK as far as I'm concerned.

Quite. She might manage in five minutes to do what others haven't been able to manage in five years.

Onnabugeisha · 09/12/2022 00:17

namitynamechange · 08/12/2022 23:52

Carl Benjamin's campaign gave him the opportunity to air his ideas and views to the general public and be challenged on them, and to hold them up for comparison against the political mainstream. Given what his views actually were I don't think this was much of an win for him.
If Posie Parkers views (that women shouldn't be locked up with male rapists in prisons etc) prove equally illogical/incoherent against the well thought out, rational, compassionate views of labour then I guess the whole thing will backfire horribly on her. I am not holding my breath for that to happen.

Here is one of her views that I think will backfire….calling TRAs pedophiles. She is much more honest about what she really thinks when she’s got men with guns flanking her…
m.youtube.com/watch?v=E_o8mYCJ2bA

IneedanewTV · 09/12/2022 00:19

Onnabugeisha · 09/12/2022 00:17

Here is one of her views that I think will backfire….calling TRAs pedophiles. She is much more honest about what she really thinks when she’s got men with guns flanking her…
m.youtube.com/watch?v=E_o8mYCJ2bA

I don’t think it will backfire. Why do think that?

Datun · 09/12/2022 00:19

Onnabugeisha · 08/12/2022 23:58

KJK is also connected to Hearts of Oak
”On Sunday, 18 September the group “Standing for Women” organised an open rally in Brighton to discuss women’s rights. The group is led by Kellie-Jay Keen…..Live streaming from that event was a group called “Hearts Of Oak”. Not many of us have heard of them, but its members were at the front of the inner circle of the rally. It is important that women ask why they were there and what should be done about it. What is attractive about women’s work in this area to men like this? This group campaigns on issues of “free speech” but also against Islam and with a focus on “National Identity and Patriotism” amongst others. This would place it as a clear successor to the English Defence League (EDL) — a nationalist group which has now gone into decline….. For over a decade the de-facto far-right leader in the UK was Tommy Robinson, whose real name is Steven Yaxley-Lennon — the ex-leader of the English Defence League…. He has been platformed of late by “Hearts of Oak”, whose speaker at the event “Our Children, Our Country” hailed him as a “national legend”…. Carl “Sargon of Akkad” Benjamin, the man who said he “wouldn’t even rape you … feminism is cancer” to Jess Phillips, has also been platformed by Hearts of Oak.”

thecritic.co.uk/men-of-the-far-right-and-the-womens-movement/

Haha!!

Boiledbeetle · 09/12/2022 00:24

To all those going but but but far right mutter mutter can I state as a paid up member of the Labour party right now I don't give a shit if she's so far right she's sleeping with Tommy Robinson. If I lived in Kier Starmers constituency I'd vote for KJK over him.

Because right now in what is probably the most important time for the rights of women in this country her thoughts on the matter align a damn sight more with mine than the leader of my own party who currently thinks a man can be a women just because of a feeling in his head.

When are you lot going to learn that most of us on here see through your whataboutery bullshit.

SantaCarlaCalifornia · 09/12/2022 00:40

Associated with = stood vaguely near in a park, had a photo with, spoke to

Anything else?

Datun · 09/12/2022 00:43

SantaCarlaCalifornia · 09/12/2022 00:40

Associated with = stood vaguely near in a park, had a photo with, spoke to

Anything else?

'Was looked at by' 😄

namitynamechange · 09/12/2022 00:47

If a radical feminist watches e.g. Matt Walsh's documentary or is even standing within hearing distance when he gives a talk does that make matt walsh a radical feminist? Because if so that's really cool! Or does it only work 1 way?

IcakethereforeIam · 09/12/2022 01:32
IcakethereforeIam · 09/12/2022 01:36

I hope she'd have someone stand in my ward. My MP never answers my emails, it's getting embarrassing, like I'm needy and they're just not that into meBlush

Bosky · 09/12/2022 05:14

IcakethereforeIam · 09/12/2022 01:36

I hope she'd have someone stand in my ward. My MP never answers my emails, it's getting embarrassing, like I'm needy and they're just not that into meBlush

Are you on Twitter? You could DM twitter.com/StandingLocal to find out if there is a SFW Local Group near you - or email [email protected]

You never know . . . come the General Election . . . it could be "Vote for IcaketherforeIam !!" 👀

Happylittlechicken · 09/12/2022 06:33

Datun · 09/12/2022 00:43

'Was looked at by' 😄

Was in the same country as….

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/12/2022 07:31

If she's so insignificant and so pointless, why do the TRAs and "Brighton Feminists" always descend onto threads that mention her?

It's hilarious.

It is Grin

Namochang · 09/12/2022 07:54

I knew that lots here don’t care about things like her working with them, my point was that you’re not the ones that need convincing. You’re already of the opinion that this is the biggest issue.
My point was that If the idea of this is to peak more women, then the connections with the GC movement and the far right movement are going to hinder it massively.
Lets be honest, most women who should be part of this fighting for women’s rights are avoiding it because they don’t want to be seen as a bigot and it’s not going to help if all the coverage comes out about her when she stands. It will overshadow. But that’s just my opinion.

ExiledElsie · 09/12/2022 08:15

namitynamechange · 09/12/2022 00:47

If a radical feminist watches e.g. Matt Walsh's documentary or is even standing within hearing distance when he gives a talk does that make matt walsh a radical feminist? Because if so that's really cool! Or does it only work 1 way?

It's a one way system. It also only affects certain women, so KJK automatically becomes everything her interviewers are, but other feminists who've been interviewed by Benjamin Boyce, for example, seem to come out with their reputations intact.

I don't know much about Boyce but I did see one short clip where he was crowing about having platformed feminists loads and the contempt he had for women was palpable.

teawamutu · 09/12/2022 08:20

Namochang · 09/12/2022 07:54

I knew that lots here don’t care about things like her working with them, my point was that you’re not the ones that need convincing. You’re already of the opinion that this is the biggest issue.
My point was that If the idea of this is to peak more women, then the connections with the GC movement and the far right movement are going to hinder it massively.
Lets be honest, most women who should be part of this fighting for women’s rights are avoiding it because they don’t want to be seen as a bigot and it’s not going to help if all the coverage comes out about her when she stands. It will overshadow. But that’s just my opinion.

Again, you keep presenting your position on KJK as irrefutable proof we're overlooking, rather than vague and rather desperate smears we're rejecting.

So far, she's achieved more than all the A+ feminists, and most people don't appear to equate going on a podcast/having someone attend an open mic event uninvited as a hanging offence.

I guess we'll see how convincing people find your 'evidence' once the campaign starts, won't we?

ExiledElsie · 09/12/2022 08:22

Lets be honest, most women who should be part of this fighting for women’s rights are avoiding it because they don’t want to be seen as a bigot and it’s not going to help if all the coverage comes out about her when she stands. It will overshadow. But that’s just my opinion.

The naivety of thinking that only women who are left-wing are going to manage to fix this is astounding. Woman's Place UK are considered a hate group by the trans activists. They've mobilised loads of women but the Labour Party are still full on self-id.

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