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Kellie-Jay's New Political Party

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TheBadLuckOfTeelaBrown · 07/12/2022 13:34

I can't see a thread on this, but she is starting a new party and will run in elections.

twitter.com/StandingforXX/status/1600235830475653123?s=20&t=hhlXpo7uErB4FlkFj1nSRA

www.theotherparty.co.uk

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BernardBlacksMolluscs · 10/12/2022 15:16

We got a (shit) definition of transgenderism

did we get one for transgender yet? After all, the accusation was that GC feminists don’t believe transgender people exist

@airynothing , you seem to be on definitions today, can you help?

NecessaryScene · 10/12/2022 15:18

In legal terms...

While in campaigning terms, which would seem to be more relevant to a campaigner...? (Unless you think KJK is a judge for some reason?)

Helleofabore · 10/12/2022 15:19

Onnabugeisha · 10/12/2022 15:10

Full on denial, that’s the route you’re going down.
Well I’m done. It’s all in the thread. Given to you on a silver platter over and over.
Enjoy your time in the cult of KJK.

So it is clear then that you cannot do it.

Thanks for again showing readers that you cannot support your claims in one post and with a clear dissection of what she has actually said.

Shall I do it for you? I will put aside some time and pull it together for you.

Although, if you had actually anything at all except misrepresentation, you would be able to look back and post the timestamps of that ‘evidence’.

or … is this another ‘I’m done’ flounce like last night?

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 10/12/2022 15:20

I feel that simply by keeping this thread in active i’m adding to KJK’s publicity

I get to have a mildly diverting ruck on the internet and a little light activism at the same time

<pats self on back >

Boiledbeetle · 10/12/2022 15:21

LangClegsInSpace · 10/12/2022 14:56

I wondered why you were not turning up for your batsignal shifts @Boiledbeetle!

Sorry Lang I was doing Christmas this past week I've had enough trouble getting to just read the threads in between lots of inane wittering from my drunken lush of a house guest. I tried to do my shift but it coincided with the roasties and parsnips going in whilst trying to ensure I didn't forget the pigs in blankets.

Note to self: I must do better to do my bit for an imaginary group!

Datun · 10/12/2022 15:23

I feel that simply by keeping this thread in active i’m adding to KJK’s publicity

You are. You really can't pay for the sort of publicity that this thread is generating.

Helleofabore · 10/12/2022 15:24

Ok. I am going to make a start on laying out what I believe is this evidence that bug has found so convincing. It will take me a while.

Happylittlechicken · 10/12/2022 15:25

@Boiledbeetle yes, yes you must. Remember our totally real group should be your number one priority. How else can we keep up with all the cliquish duties? I’m just off to polish the Twatsignal now ready for the next shift

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 10/12/2022 15:28

Helleofabore · 10/12/2022 15:24

Ok. I am going to make a start on laying out what I believe is this evidence that bug has found so convincing. It will take me a while.

im rather looking forward to this

I kept thinking that I should go back through the thread and review the evidence for the prosecution. After all a couple of posters on here clearly found it very compelling. Maybe they’re just not very good at presenting it and making their case? but I couldn’t be arsed in the end. I watched the first 2 episodes of Wednesday with the DC instead

very public spirited of you @Helleofabore and I shall read with interest

Helleofabore · 10/12/2022 15:32

I am 5 pages in -nothing so far to post.

Onnabugeisha · 10/12/2022 15:33

Helleofabore · 10/12/2022 15:14

Yes Happy.

bug insults huh? Calling out bad faith misrepresentations, inconstancies, dishonesty, cognitive distortions, and your own hyperbolic accusations of child abuse, racism and a whole list of other direct accusations, is insulting to you?

Well, sure. If your bravado is so performative, why do you post the way you do? If you read all what I write and all you can come back with is ‘you insulted me’ after the accusations you have directed at me and other posters here, well…. Ok then…

Why do you post the way you do? Calling truth lies, exaggerating thrown eggs as more violent than being shot or run over to death, literally going to other threads to cut and paste things completely out of context to smear me- that’s unhinged behaviour right there, asking loaded questions that are blatantly manipulative and far from genuine.

When I posted that abortion rights are extremely important because it risks womens lives, thousands of women and girls and no one has died yet due to transgenderism. You responded by posting the names of two transgender criminals saying “their victims would disagree” and accused me of misogyny and ignorance…deliberately not mentioning that their victims were not killed. Leaving it vague, to imply to all the readers that criminals you mentioned were murderers and I was ignorant.

Their victims had suffered voyeurism and assault not murder. Then when I point that out, that my point was lack of abortion rights = DEATH and transgender ideology hasn’t actually killed any women and your two criminals hadn’t killed anyone, you then accuse me of minimising sexual assault! it’s not minimising to point out the original point I made was about women dying and that you were deliberately trying to obfuscate that.

You are patently dishonest and manipulative in how you post. When you get the evidence you demand after calling someone a liar, you go into full on denial and character assassination.

Then you wonder why some of us get angry with you on MN. You wonder why we resort to sarcasm. And don’t think I haven’t noticed how you’ve stopped shortening my name to Onna and started calling me “bug”…as some sort of sick provocation to dehumanise me into an insect. Which of course, your response will be full on faux innocence denial.

Boiledbeetle · 10/12/2022 15:35

Happylittlechicken · 10/12/2022 15:25

@Boiledbeetle yes, yes you must. Remember our totally real group should be your number one priority. How else can we keep up with all the cliquish duties? I’m just off to polish the Twatsignal now ready for the next shift

Always I'm just washing the ceremonial robes for the whole group, thankfully we very sensibly decided as a group to buy them in fleece so they'll be dry by 8pm.

And let me know when I need to finish the peer review for your aura colour penis report.

Also I've nearly finished your job reference for Mermaids.

Right back to trying to read all the missed threads.

Happylittlechicken · 10/12/2022 15:36

@Onnabugeisha i literally told you Dana Rivers, a male with a trans identity killed two women and their child as he was upset lesbians would not date him. It’s nice to see you set the bar at women dying before you will admit gender ideology is a serious threat to women and girls. Thought you were a feminist?

Onnabugeisha · 10/12/2022 15:37

Helleofabore · 10/12/2022 15:19

So it is clear then that you cannot do it.

Thanks for again showing readers that you cannot support your claims in one post and with a clear dissection of what she has actually said.

Shall I do it for you? I will put aside some time and pull it together for you.

Although, if you had actually anything at all except misrepresentation, you would be able to look back and post the timestamps of that ‘evidence’.

or … is this another ‘I’m done’ flounce like last night?

I can, but I choose not to serve the same silver platter up to you yet again. After what you’ve said to me? The stunts you’ve pulled? You can do your own bloody research. Which I don’t think you will do. You are only asking because it amuses you to do so. I doubt very much you’ll actually read the entire thread and follow all the links and watch all the videos. You have too much blind faith to do that.

NecessaryScene · 10/12/2022 15:40

I'm on a quest to find the source of that alleged Posie Parker quote. So far it's proving elusive enough I'm beginning to wonder if it might not be genuine. It's not a million miles away from the sort of way she expresses herself, but it's possible it's been subtly reworded.

I see it discussed on this previous thread, but the OP there again says "No idea, it's not my screen shot.".

It was posted as that cropped screenshot by Billy Bragg on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/billybraggofficial/posts/pfbid02QpbP1fE616ozQ3hSMQYAGJMMe5eaCRVpsfUFTPepD6A37hCTnwXNW6fFLtwgKwfyl in summer this year.

Not got further than that yet.

radrado · 10/12/2022 15:43

This thread is embarrassing. I bet the TRAs and wee Owen are loving it.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 10/12/2022 15:44

Ok, this seems to be genuinely upsetting you @Onnabugeisha , so I’m going to be serious for a moment

you and I look at the same evidence and see different things

you post the screenshot of KJK objecting to little girls being expected to cover their heads and I think ‘quite right’ and you think ‘racist’

you think someone from Hearts of Oak streaming one of KJK’s events is shameful for her and proves she is in cahoots with them. I think she’s not in charge of what other people do, and right wing men listening to what some women have to say will probably do them some good

in all seriousness, if you’d like to see something done right, get on and do it. Don’t drive yourself nuts because someone else is doing it wrong

Boiledbeetle · 10/12/2022 15:45

Onnabugeisha · 10/12/2022 15:37

I can, but I choose not to serve the same silver platter up to you yet again. After what you’ve said to me? The stunts you’ve pulled? You can do your own bloody research. Which I don’t think you will do. You are only asking because it amuses you to do so. I doubt very much you’ll actually read the entire thread and follow all the links and watch all the videos. You have too much blind faith to do that.

Well you could use the same silver platter again, but as it's getting near 4o'clock maybe use it to serve some nice sandwiches instead

Onnabugeisha · 10/12/2022 15:46

Happylittlechicken · 10/12/2022 15:36

@Onnabugeisha i literally told you Dana Rivers, a male with a trans identity killed two women and their child as he was upset lesbians would not date him. It’s nice to see you set the bar at women dying before you will admit gender ideology is a serious threat to women and girls. Thought you were a feminist?

@Happylittlechicken

I never said it wasn’t a threat serious or otherwise. Abortion rights save the lives of thousands of women annually. It’s not wise to say that transgenderism is more important because lack of abortion rights will result in femicide.

In regards to Dana Rivers, transgenderism had nothing to do with the murders. There was no “upset because lesbians wouldn’t date him” I think you’ve read some propaganda there.

It was revenge for leaving a motorcycle club:

”Prosecutors claimed the motive was a fallout between Reed and Rivers, on-again, off-again friends, which centered on Reeds’ departure from a defunct all-women motorcycle club known as the Deviants. Pointing to a tattoo on Rivers that defines her as a “1 percenter” — referring to the small portion of motorcyclists that join gangs — authorities say Rivers became wrapped up in her identity as an enforcer for an outlaw motorcycle club and sought revenge against Reed after she left the Deviants.”
www.mercurynews.com/2022/11/17/dana-rivers-guilty-oakland-jury-takes-less-than-a-day-to-return-triple-murder-verdict/

Happylittlechicken · 10/12/2022 15:47

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Boiledbeetle · 10/12/2022 15:48

Also @Onnabugeisha " I doubt very much you’ll actually read the entire thread and follow all the links and watch all the videos".

ha ha you don't know @Helleofabore very well do you.

MarshaBradyo · 10/12/2022 15:48

Onnabugeisha · 10/12/2022 15:16

No it doesn’t. In legal terms “set aside” means to annul; to make void, cancel, or destroy. To set aside a judgment, decree, award, or any proceedings is to cancel, annul, or revoke them.

HTH

This seems to underline a lot of dissatisfaction

Why do you think it was said in legal terms?

It was a casual comment on SM - which no one can seem to find to confirm context in any case

The trifle analogy makes sense

Happylittlechicken · 10/12/2022 15:51

@Onnabugeisha is there anything you won’t excuse if a male did it? Serious question. You seem very invested in promoting gender ideology as safe and not a threat to women. Why?

Onnabugeisha · 10/12/2022 15:54

MarshaBradyo · 10/12/2022 15:48

This seems to underline a lot of dissatisfaction

Why do you think it was said in legal terms?

It was a casual comment on SM - which no one can seem to find to confirm context in any case

The trifle analogy makes sense

Oh, perhaps because it was a response to the Roe v Wade overturning, which is, you guessed it, a legal process in which all federal level abortion rights for women in the US were legally “set aside”

Its a post on SM on a thread about a Supreme Court judgement. Why would this sentence about the legal right to an abortion be using “setting aside” in anything other than it’s legal meaning?

“If that’s not worth setting aside even the legal right to an abortion. I don’t know what is.”

NecessaryScene · 10/12/2022 15:55

Its a post on SM on a thread about a Supreme Court judgement.

How do you know this? I thought you didn't have any more context. I'm trying to find it. Please help!

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