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Kellie-Jay Keen (AKA Posie Parker) appreciation thread

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TotallyTERF · 25/10/2022 18:35

I just love this woman! She undoubtedly has the Midas touch when it comes to marketing and publicity.

I have been to several of her events over the years, and she has time for each and every woman who comes to see her.

Any other fans here?

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Datun · 17/01/2023 13:27

NecessaryScene · 17/01/2023 13:21

I think it's quite funny that artix and suggestions are doing exactly the same thing as the woman did in her speech - comparing their opponents' tactics to fascism. And yet, for some reason, it makes her antisemitic, but not them.

And ELO now. I'm reminded of this Monty Python bit:

Haha!! It's exactly exactly like that.

It also reminds me of kids giving you the finger while pretending to rub their nose. Along with the faux condescension, that every parent in history has witnessed.

suggestionsplease1 · 17/01/2023 13:29

RoseslnTheHospital · 17/01/2023 13:19

And people responded to you. Asking you what point you were making in relation to KJK based on your observations about persuasive bad arguments and so on.

It's really wearying trying to say the same thing over and over again. I explicitly responded to an individual point made by another poster. The issues I raised speak to general themes around argumentation, reason, rhetoric, free speech.

You seem to think you are entitled to some further point from me about KJK. Let me put this clearly to you: you aren't.

RoseslnTheHospital · 17/01/2023 13:30

Excellent, glad to hear you have nothing further to add to this thread.

suggestionsplease1 · 17/01/2023 13:31

RoseslnTheHospital · 17/01/2023 13:30

Excellent, glad to hear you have nothing further to add to this thread.

I'll contribute to this thread on my own terms, thanks.

RoseslnTheHospital · 17/01/2023 13:32

Of course you will. Just responding to your previous comment Wink

AlisonDonut · 17/01/2023 13:50

So are we now saying anyone who wants to publicly speak is Hitler? Because the act of wanting to speak is just like being a Nazi?

I am genuinely lost, if the process of comparing things to the rise of nazism is nazism then is comparing the rise of nazism, literally nazism which makes those that accuse KJK of being a Nazi, them being themselves, a Nazi?

RufusthefIoraImissingreindeer · 17/01/2023 13:53

EastLondonObserver · 17/01/2023 13:16

Only last week I compared her to Rotha Lintorn-Orman here and was shouted down. Today it turns out she is providing a platform for Hiterlite antisemites at her 'rallies'.

I hope you guys will listen up more in future.

How is it anti semitic?

Boiledbeetle · 17/01/2023 14:18

EastLondonObserver · 17/01/2023 13:16

Only last week I compared her to Rotha Lintorn-Orman here and was shouted down. Today it turns out she is providing a platform for Hiterlite antisemites at her 'rallies'.

I hope you guys will listen up more in future.

To you???

Seriously?

Nah mate you're OK.

WarriorN · 17/01/2023 14:22

Suggestions, I've been through all your posts (tky mn premium) and at times you've used arguments that the speaker at the event who has now just been labelled a "hitlerite" actually used in her speech to make points around how propaganda works.

From what I can tell your original point was around there being too many people with one point of view on this thread.

Rufus, I would genuinely appreciate it clearly spelt out how the speaker was antisemitic (when she was clearly illustrating how dangerous it is to repeat the lies propaganda uses.)

RufusthefIoraImissingreindeer · 17/01/2023 14:25

Rufus, I would genuinely appreciate it clearly spelt out how the speaker was antisemitic

Same, I'm not trying to be snide or asking a gotcha question. I don't understand

WarriorN · 17/01/2023 14:35

Yes I didn't see it as snide.

The accusation is clearly being aimed to undermine the event which detracts a lot from the very important and horrific content that was included. There's no clear reasoning behind it thus far.

BordoisAgain · 17/01/2023 14:45

EastLondonObserver · 17/01/2023 13:16

Only last week I compared her to Rotha Lintorn-Orman here and was shouted down. Today it turns out she is providing a platform for Hiterlite antisemites at her 'rallies'.

I hope you guys will listen up more in future.

And Victor Barker.

Don't forget that one 😉

Wellies54 · 17/01/2023 16:27

This whole issue can be depressing at times but I have to admit that I'm finding it hilarious that some people on this thread seem to be trying to suggest that standing up for the rights of women and girls is some kind of sinister plot to brainwash us all into becoming fascists!

I have endless admiration for Kellie -Jay Keen!

OneMorePlant · 17/01/2023 16:31

It might be a sinister plot to get women outside and meet each other and have many drinks together and even have lunch. Very dangerous!

TheClogLady · 17/01/2023 16:34

suggestionsplease1 · 16/01/2023 23:05

That's pretty simplistic isn't it?

Persuasive and powerful speakers can convince others to abominable actions with their rhetoric in the right circumstances; we are all pretty dumb really. And we can all shift values in the right contexts, and subsequently perceive and justify our new values as reasonable.

I am sure Hitler for eg. had very persuasive arguments for the majority population he wanted to appeal to. I am sure many said he had great, necessary ideas to address the perceived problems of that time. Probably not the Jewish & minority populations that his rhetoric was targeted against, however.

Do you think World War 2 could’ve been prevented by no-platforming Hitler then?

EastLondonObserver · 17/01/2023 16:44

BordoisAgain · 17/01/2023 14:45

And Victor Barker.

Don't forget that one 😉

yes - it was highly appropriate politics wise, although you thought I'd committed some sort of horrendous slip up mentioning the said fascist

beastlyslumber · 17/01/2023 17:45

Just LOL. This gets ever more ridiculous.

KJK is a fascist because a woman at her rally said that TRA tactics are comparable to fascist tactics. Okayyyyyyy. And you wonder why people don't take you seriously.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 17/01/2023 17:47

RufusthefIoraImissingreindeer · 17/01/2023 13:53

How is it anti semitic?

Busy thread you might have missed this eastlondonobserver

the other poster whose name escapes me hasnt been back to answer and margarita hasnt been back with the answer to why that woman should be arrested, so maybe you have the answer

SinnerBoy · 17/01/2023 17:49

EastLondonObserver

Today it turns out she is providing a platform for Hiterlite antisemites at her 'rallies'.

No she's not and you know that perfectly well. You trans zealots all do that, tell lies over and over again, because you haven't actually got an argument. The woman in question compared your lot to the Nazis, ie, lying propaganda.

Helleofabore · 17/01/2023 17:59

EastLondonObserver · 17/01/2023 16:44

yes - it was highly appropriate politics wise, although you thought I'd committed some sort of horrendous slip up mentioning the said fascist

And your guilt by association is on a constant loop. As is your polarised assertions and your repeated misrepresentations.

Are we going to again see your misogynistic claims loud and clear as well. All you are doing is continuing the live demonstration of dishonest tactics.

We are ok with that, but then please do so on your own thread and not this one.

CharityShopCats · 17/01/2023 20:03

Is Terf Talk on tonight?

Bosky · 17/01/2023 22:30

CharityShopCats · 17/01/2023 20:03

Is Terf Talk on tonight?

Yes! Thanks for the reminder! I love how KJK gives women a platform to speak online too. There are always callers who are very interesting, sometimes with important if distressing information to share.

I imagine there will be mixed feelings today given the Government's response to the Scottish GRR Bill while at the same time trying to curry favour with the "never too soon to trans your kids" crowd with an "inclusive" Conversion Therapy Ban.

The recording has disappeared but a little birdie told me it is coming back later:
https://www.youtube.com/@KellieJayKeen/streams

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 19/01/2023 19:30

No one is coming back to answer the anti semitism question are they 🥺

rude…

Boiledbeetle · 19/01/2023 19:35

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 19/01/2023 19:30

No one is coming back to answer the anti semitism question are they 🥺

rude…

Like when summoning bundles to a thread you need to recite the name three times and do a little pee dance. ELO was floating about earlier i think so a quick shout should do it.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 19/01/2023 20:06

ELO ELO ELO

💃