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Kellie-Jay Keen (AKA Posie Parker) appreciation thread

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TotallyTERF · 25/10/2022 18:35

I just love this woman! She undoubtedly has the Midas touch when it comes to marketing and publicity.

I have been to several of her events over the years, and she has time for each and every woman who comes to see her.

Any other fans here?

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EastLondonObserver · 13/01/2023 14:56

SinnerBoy · 13/01/2023 14:52

EastLondonObserver

Not used as a verb though, is it?

Good grief! Pleas do yourself a favour, go and do a GCSE in English language, come back in two years and we'll probably have forgotten how ignorant you are! Of course it's a bloody verb!

“Not used as a verb…”

was referring to the content in the link shared. It was shared - presumably given the point of debate- as an example of a use of “to gatekeep”. Except there wasn’t one in the content. So a clear fail.

SinnerBoy · 13/01/2023 14:56

EastLondonObserver · Today 14:22

Helleofabore · Today 14:20

"Title, page number?"

I don't know if it's your one watt intellect, dishonesty, or just your wish to clown dance, but here you go: Helle has already provided the evidence.

Helleofabore · Today 13:19

Look.... here ... very first google entry regarding 'marketing'
^www.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/gatekeeper-marketing^

beastlyslumber · 13/01/2023 14:58

beastlyslumber · 13/01/2023 14:52

So why is it okay for you to correspond with an alleged holocaust denier but not okay for KJK to be in the same room as him?

I'd like to know the answer to this, please.

EastLondonObserver · 13/01/2023 15:00

SinnerBoy · 13/01/2023 14:56

EastLondonObserver · Today 14:22

Helleofabore · Today 14:20

"Title, page number?"

I don't know if it's your one watt intellect, dishonesty, or just your wish to clown dance, but here you go: Helle has already provided the evidence.

Helleofabore · Today 13:19

Look.... here ... very first google entry regarding 'marketing'
^www.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/gatekeeper-marketing^

No use of the verb “to gatekeep” in that article though which is the point being debated.

Guys - “gatekeeper” is a noun. You need to provide evidence “to gatekeep” is a widely used verb, including in business to win the argument.

SinnerBoy · 13/01/2023 15:03

The point being debated is that gatekeeper exists and is used in business, which you denied, initially.

beastlyslumber · 13/01/2023 15:08

Please answer why it's okay for you to be in correspondence with alleged holocaust denier, but not okay for KJK to be in the same room as him @EastLondonObserver

I don't really care about the gatekeeper thing, tbh. You're wrong but I can let it go. But I really do want to know why you seem to have set a standard for a woman that you are not prepared to achieve yourself.

RufusthefIoraImissingreindeer · 13/01/2023 15:10

I really don't know why there is a 'debate' (and that word is doing a LOT of heavy lifting) about the specific usage of a word on an appreciation thread

Absolutely no one needs to prove evidence of the specific usage of a word....especially to someone who doesn't seem to provide evidence to anyone else

TheKrakens · 13/01/2023 15:12

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Helleofabore · 13/01/2023 15:12

EastLondonObserver · 13/01/2023 14:56

“Not used as a verb…”

was referring to the content in the link shared. It was shared - presumably given the point of debate- as an example of a use of “to gatekeep”. Except there wasn’t one in the content. So a clear fail.

So just to refer you to your post where it is YOU that is claiming its usage on the other thread:

EastLondonObserver · 11/01/2023 12:33

The post uses it as a verb - not common, at least, it seems, outside of slang in some corners of the internet.

And then you went from there with the 'verb' narrative. While I have maintained that you should look it up.

However, I used the term in the way that the Gender GP article used it.

You decided to follow the 'verb' narrative. I am very happy to say it is not a verb at all and that it is a noun. I was merely answering your repeated assertions.

I have been consistent in saying 'gatekeeping' is not 'jargon', it is not limited to feminists as 'identity jargon' and 'niche language', and that yes, 'gatekeeping' is a term regularly used in business.

That is what I call fuckwittery.

Now... how about that evidence of Kellie Jay being 'platformed' with Johansen?

EastLondonObserver · 13/01/2023 15:14

SinnerBoy · 13/01/2023 15:03

The point being debated is that gatekeeper exists and is used in business, which you denied, initially.

Nope. I argued it is not widely used as a verb, especially in business.

beastlyslumber · 13/01/2023 15:15

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Message deleted by MNHQ. Sockpuppeting previously banned poster.

It's not; it's just a variant spelling.

But, and I mean this with all due respect, who the fuck cares? What I really care about is why ELO is slandering a woman and whether ELO is going to provide evidence for any of ELO's accusations.

EastLondonObserver · 13/01/2023 15:17

Helleofabore · 13/01/2023 15:12

So just to refer you to your post where it is YOU that is claiming its usage on the other thread:

EastLondonObserver · 11/01/2023 12:33

The post uses it as a verb - not common, at least, it seems, outside of slang in some corners of the internet.

And then you went from there with the 'verb' narrative. While I have maintained that you should look it up.

However, I used the term in the way that the Gender GP article used it.

You decided to follow the 'verb' narrative. I am very happy to say it is not a verb at all and that it is a noun. I was merely answering your repeated assertions.

I have been consistent in saying 'gatekeeping' is not 'jargon', it is not limited to feminists as 'identity jargon' and 'niche language', and that yes, 'gatekeeping' is a term regularly used in business.

That is what I call fuckwittery.

Now... how about that evidence of Kellie Jay being 'platformed' with Johansen?

your post isn’t very clearly written, but by way of reply, yes, I engaged in a debate about whether “to gatekeep” is a commonly used verb. Judging by the failure of anyone to provide a single example, i is would say I’ve won this one.

Helleofabore · 13/01/2023 15:18

EastLondonObserver · 13/01/2023 15:17

your post isn’t very clearly written, but by way of reply, yes, I engaged in a debate about whether “to gatekeep” is a commonly used verb. Judging by the failure of anyone to provide a single example, i is would say I’ve won this one.

Are you a child?

beastlyslumber · 13/01/2023 15:18

Now... how about that evidence of Kellie Jay being 'platformed' with Johansen?

And how about the explanation as to why this is the most dreadful, discrediting thing you've ever heard of - but it's fine for you to strike up an email correspondence with him?

I've asked three or four times now, but you seem unable to answer, ELO.

suggestionsplease1 · 13/01/2023 15:19

beastlyslumber · 13/01/2023 13:58

No darling. There's such a thing as verifiable fact. If someone claims that KJK is a holocaust denier, they need to support that claim with evidence. If they can't, then it's a lie.

Sorry, who on this thread has said KJK is a holocaust denier?

If you quote precisely that will make it easier to establish the 'verifiable facts', as you put it, and make sure no misrepresentations are occurring.

beastlyslumber · 13/01/2023 15:19

EastLondonObserver · 13/01/2023 15:17

your post isn’t very clearly written, but by way of reply, yes, I engaged in a debate about whether “to gatekeep” is a commonly used verb. Judging by the failure of anyone to provide a single example, i is would say I’ve won this one.

Great. Well done, I expect Mummy will be able to find you a sticker if you ask nicely.

Now, could you please answer my question?

EastLondonObserver · 13/01/2023 15:20

beastlyslumber · 13/01/2023 15:18

Now... how about that evidence of Kellie Jay being 'platformed' with Johansen?

And how about the explanation as to why this is the most dreadful, discrediting thing you've ever heard of - but it's fine for you to strike up an email correspondence with him?

I've asked three or four times now, but you seem unable to answer, ELO.

As l mentioned, I am awaiting on replies to messages sent to the parties who hold the evidence.

EastLondonObserver · 13/01/2023 15:20

suggestionsplease1 · 13/01/2023 15:19

Sorry, who on this thread has said KJK is a holocaust denier?

If you quote precisely that will make it easier to establish the 'verifiable facts', as you put it, and make sure no misrepresentations are occurring.

No one said she is

beastlyslumber · 13/01/2023 15:21

suggestionsplease1 · 13/01/2023 15:19

Sorry, who on this thread has said KJK is a holocaust denier?

If you quote precisely that will make it easier to establish the 'verifiable facts', as you put it, and make sure no misrepresentations are occurring.

ELO has said that KJK associates with holocaust deniers and that she is a charlatan who is fronting for fascism. You can scroll back and read those comments for yourself.

Helleofabore · 13/01/2023 15:21

You asserted and twisted the 'debate' to be about verbs when it was not initially.

You have done nothing but prove that you are all about posting fuckwittery and have not yet posted anything that supports your claims about KJK and 'holocaust denial'.

So, you have not 'won' a thing.

Gatekeeping is still a term that is widely used in business and many other disciplines. You tried to deviate it 'verb' but have not actually achieved anything at all.

The term as it was used was correct. Despite the rabbit hole you went down.

What have you got that supports your claims about KJK and 'holocaust denial'?

EastLondonObserver · 13/01/2023 15:22

beastlyslumber · 13/01/2023 15:21

ELO has said that KJK associates with holocaust deniers and that she is a charlatan who is fronting for fascism. You can scroll back and read those comments for yourself.

It wasn’t me who used the word charlatan to describe it. It was another poster.

suggestionsplease1 · 13/01/2023 15:22

beastlyslumber · 13/01/2023 15:21

ELO has said that KJK associates with holocaust deniers and that she is a charlatan who is fronting for fascism. You can scroll back and read those comments for yourself.

Ok, but that's not what I asked, is it?

beastlyslumber · 13/01/2023 15:23

EastLondonObserver · 13/01/2023 15:20

As l mentioned, I am awaiting on replies to messages sent to the parties who hold the evidence.

That's really not an answer to my question, is it?

I asked why it's okay for you to have an email correspondence with a holocaust denier but not okay for KJK to be in the same room as one.

You accused KJK of being a fascist. Surely by the same logic you are a fascist?

EastLondonObserver · 13/01/2023 15:23

Helleofabore · 13/01/2023 15:21

You asserted and twisted the 'debate' to be about verbs when it was not initially.

You have done nothing but prove that you are all about posting fuckwittery and have not yet posted anything that supports your claims about KJK and 'holocaust denial'.

So, you have not 'won' a thing.

Gatekeeping is still a term that is widely used in business and many other disciplines. You tried to deviate it 'verb' but have not actually achieved anything at all.

The term as it was used was correct. Despite the rabbit hole you went down.

What have you got that supports your claims about KJK and 'holocaust denial'?

I’m sorry it didn’t work out for you.

SinnerBoy · 13/01/2023 15:24

As my dear old Gran used to say: "Don't argue with idiots, they're too stupid to know when they've lost."

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