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Kellie-Jay Keen (AKA Posie Parker) appreciation thread

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TotallyTERF · 25/10/2022 18:35

I just love this woman! She undoubtedly has the Midas touch when it comes to marketing and publicity.

I have been to several of her events over the years, and she has time for each and every woman who comes to see her.

Any other fans here?

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EastLondonObserver · 12/01/2023 14:21

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Ahhhh, yes the glorious racism-free days of the 1960s

Helleofabore · 12/01/2023 14:22

EastLondonObserver · 12/01/2023 13:35

the entry on her is accurate though.

pull yer finger out and look at the actual references, not share this generic stuff

That Wikipedia entry starts with:

"Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull, also known as Posie Parker, is a British anti-transgender rights activist"

She is not an anti-transgender rights activist. She is pro-woman.

There is an entire section on 'Anti-Trans Activism'.

So, really ELO I think your bar for accuracy is very low from the very start.

"Keen opposes civil rights protections for gender identity, particularly laws and policies that allow transgender people to be legally recognized as their gender, to use public facilities according to their gender, and to compete in sports, with an emphasis on opposing transgender women's inclusion in women's spaces."

KJK does not oppose 'civil rights protections' for trans people. ELO how about you tell us what 'civil rights protections' do you think that trans people don't have?

Please list them.

Because being 'legally' recognised as their gender does not automatically grant any male access to female single sex spaces and sports. Yet, this wikipedia entry seems to think that is a 'civil right' that should be automatically granted.

And the articles that have used for sources are not known for their balanced views. Some, such as Pink News, seems to have very low bars for evidence at all (as Julie Bindel can attest to).

Take for instance one of the sources from the first paragraph that covered the December protest that was violent and abusive in New York. It seemed to avoid mentioning the assault and spitting by trans protested, it seemed to avoid mentioning the abuse that two trans models gave to feminists merely attending to speak in public.

So, I think that anyone reading that Wikipedia entry would indeed benefit from looking further and seeing original source material. Generally there is a video from events that have been used to report on.

Strangely, my teen has been taught to do this at their school. They are taught that everything on wikipedia should be checked at original source and bias checked.

Yet... ELO is here telling us all that wikipedia is a source of 'truth' 100% of the time and 100% accurate.

Adulting is pretty hard. We know this.

TheClogLady · 12/01/2023 14:25

beastlyslumber · 12/01/2023 13:49

Tell you one thing I love about KJK. Her jumpsuits! That lady can rock a jumpsuit. She's got great style.

I do love a jumpsuit!

They give KJK the air of an action hero - Annika Rice crossed with Katherine Hepburn.

Helleofabore · 12/01/2023 14:27

EastLondonObserver · 12/01/2023 14:01

”Really”. Yes.

Hey! Vegetarians!!

Be appraised that the only 'Vegetarian conference' you should ever attend has been 100% checked for any person who doesn't align with you on all other political aspects of life!

Else you will be considered as 'politically aligned' with them.

How about none of us ever go to any conference ever again!

You are absurd now.

SinnerBoy · 12/01/2023 14:31

So, have I got this right? KJK looks like a 60s housewife. People were openly racist in the 60s; therefore, KJK is a racist.

Well, that's conclusive enough for me!

Conclusive evidence that ELO has rarely, if ever, visited Planet Earth.

Plantelle · 12/01/2023 14:37

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TheDarkMan · 12/01/2023 14:39

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Helleofabore · 12/01/2023 15:03

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Do you happen to have a link for that, please?

And did you catch which people they described as 'far right' in Australia?

beastlyslumber · 12/01/2023 15:07

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Debate is the opposite of "standing alongside" or however you want to put it.

Unless you think that by commenting on this thread you are showing support for KJK? It does clearly say "appreciation thread" after all... Or do your rules not apply to you? Why not?

Christinestrawberrygirl · 12/01/2023 17:10

@DrLouiseJMoody
Only thing is Kathleen Stock doesn't tend to "bump into"/"randomly" come across noted fascists and neo nazis all the time in her travels...

Helleofabore · 12/01/2023 17:13

Christinestrawberrygirl · 12/01/2023 17:10

@DrLouiseJMoody
Only thing is Kathleen Stock doesn't tend to "bump into"/"randomly" come across noted fascists and neo nazis all the time in her travels...

Because Kathleen Stock doesn't hold open mic rallies though. Does she?

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 12/01/2023 17:15

Oh man, the loons were out in force today

they can’t resist Posie can they?

Christinestrawberrygirl · 12/01/2023 17:17

OP I have no interest in speaking directly to KJK. Already have a couple of years back and got her number . Saleswoman for the fasc. Not genuinely interested in woman's rights . A horrible person.
She has caused those opposed to gender ideology so much damage and damaged the feminist cause against trans extremism. Maybe that's her plan all along ? Or her handlers ? And you lot can't see it .
Oh and stop getting men to send me dodgy messages.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 12/01/2023 17:18

‘Handlers’

you ok hon?

PomegranateOfPersephone · 12/01/2023 17:25

Helleofabore · 12/01/2023 13:53

Really?

So, so all vegetarians are aligned with all other vegetarians if they all attended a vegetarian conference and spoke about their vegetarian choices. And got their photo's taken with other vegetarians they all are aligned politically?

By the way, here is KJK's speech at that conference.

A conference where in the first paragraphs she declares she is a 'lefty'.

Thanks @Helleofabore great video. I wonder what the audience made of her presentation. I’m glad that KJK is willing to speak to anyone who will listen and to discuss/debate with anyone who will engage. Dialogue is essential.

DrLouiseJMoody · 12/01/2023 17:26

No, you're quite right about KS. She just messages my friends asking them to disassociate from me if I won't shut up, says she can't support over York because the HoD is a friend of hers (whilst - rightly - objecting that silence from her colleagues is complicity), and that yes we all know about the sex pest but can I please shut up for the good of the international movement and when I say NO continues messaging people about me and others instead. Whatever her other virtues, transparency and integrity are not amongst them.

I'll take KJK who is out there, engaging with women, giving them a voice, and taking actual risks over the careerist brand builders whose feminism never leaves whatever conference venue on their perpetual victimhood tour any day of the bloody week.

beastlyslumber · 12/01/2023 17:28

Christinestrawberrygirl · 12/01/2023 17:17

OP I have no interest in speaking directly to KJK. Already have a couple of years back and got her number . Saleswoman for the fasc. Not genuinely interested in woman's rights . A horrible person.
She has caused those opposed to gender ideology so much damage and damaged the feminist cause against trans extremism. Maybe that's her plan all along ? Or her handlers ? And you lot can't see it .
Oh and stop getting men to send me dodgy messages.

Goodness me.

Christinestrawberrygirl · 12/01/2023 17:43

@BernardBlacksMolluscs absolutely fantastic thanks!😀
I've spoke to quite a few of you KJK fans before and most of you were Tories and actually transphobic instead of genuinely concerned about women and girls' safe spaces.
Bindel and Women's Place got the measure of Posie very early on. Maybe because they are real working class feminists who are not using the very real fears of women and girls concerned about gender ideology and the erosion of women's rights to build the fascist tendency and make Posie plenty of dosh. Not too smart eh ?

DrLouiseJMoody · 12/01/2023 17:48

"KJK is a right wing fascist taking the Heritage coin and you can go read why in my latest Daily Mail / Spectator Piece" - absolute bunch of hypocrites.

beastlyslumber · 12/01/2023 17:49

Christinestrawberrygirl · 12/01/2023 17:43

@BernardBlacksMolluscs absolutely fantastic thanks!😀
I've spoke to quite a few of you KJK fans before and most of you were Tories and actually transphobic instead of genuinely concerned about women and girls' safe spaces.
Bindel and Women's Place got the measure of Posie very early on. Maybe because they are real working class feminists who are not using the very real fears of women and girls concerned about gender ideology and the erosion of women's rights to build the fascist tendency and make Posie plenty of dosh. Not too smart eh ?

Very telling that this is what Real Actual Feminists think of ordinary women.

Must keep you awake at night, all that worry that normal, nice housewives are building fascism by selling t shirts with the definition of 'woman' on them.

DialSquare · 12/01/2023 17:49

Well this has taken a bit of a turn!

TheClogLady · 12/01/2023 18:00

Ooh! Is this a bread new season of The Real Feminists of B Right On?

Shame it’s the same old recycled plot line over and over again!

DialSquare · 12/01/2023 18:04

Im just wondering why I'd want a man to send dodgy messages to anyone, let alone get them to do it.

beastlyslumber · 12/01/2023 18:05

Yep it's The Real Feminists Hate Ordinary Women episode (again).

SinnerBoy · 12/01/2023 18:06

@Christinestrawberrygirl · Today 17:17

Already have a couple of years back and got her number . Saleswoman for the fasc.

Really? Would you care to expand upon why you've concluded that she's a saleswoman for the fash?

Or indeed, why she's a charlatan?

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