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Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Appeal Tribunal hearing Thread 19

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ickky · 26/09/2022 17:24

Allison Bailey has tweeted her intention to appeal the Stonewall decision.

twitter.com/BluskyeAllison/status/1572133035335716865

The Tribunal started on 25th April, witness testimony concluded on the 26th May. Closing arguments for council was on the 20th June.

There was also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/allison-bailey-vs-stonewall-and-garden

Abbreviations:

AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC )
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = Judge Goodman, Mr M. Reuby and Ms Darmas

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?
Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2
Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4545725-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-3
Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4546945-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-4
Thread 5 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4548160-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-5
Thread 6 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4550451-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-6
Thread 7 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4551757-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-7
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Thread 9 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4553181-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-9
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Thread 12 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4555687-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-12
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Thread 15 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4556803-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-15
Thread 16 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4557036-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-16
Thread 17 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4561850-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-17
Thread 18 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4574654-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-18

Allison Bailey - claimant (4-9, 11-13 May)

Witnesses for the claimant:

Dr Nicola Williams - Fair Play for Women (29 April)
Dr Judith Green - A Woman's Place (29 April)
Kate Barker - LGB Alliance (3 May)
Lisa-Marie Taylor - FiLiA (4 May)

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC (3-4 May)
Zainab Al-Farabi - ex Stonewall (10 May)
Kirrin Medcalf - head of trans inclusion Stonewall (10 May)
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC (13 May)
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall (16 May)
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG (16 May)
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers (16-17 May)
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC (17-18 May)
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC (18 May)
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC (19-20 May)
Charlie Tennent - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Luke Harvey - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Louise Hooper - Barrister at GCC (20 May)
David Renton - barrister at GCC (20 May, 25 May)
Marc Willers - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Stephen Clark - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Liz Davies - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Cathryn McGahey - Bar Council Ethics Committee's VC (24 May)
Tom Wainwright - Barrister at GCC (24 May)
Colin Cook - Head clerk at GCC (24 May)
David de Menezes - GCC, Head of Marketing (25 May)
Kathryn Cronin - barrister at GCC (25 May)
Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge (26 May)
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers (26 May)

Closing arguments for AB, GCC, and SW (20 June)

Allison Bailey's Witness Statement

allisonbailey.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Witness-Statement-of-Allison-Bailey.pdf
Supplementary Statement
allisonbailey.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/C-Supplementary-Witness-Statement.pdf
Closing Statement
allisonbailey.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/CLOSING-SUBMISSIONS-FINAL.pdf

The Reserved Judgement (forth one down)

www.gov.uk/employment-tribunal-decisions/ms-a-bailey-v-stonewall-equality-ltd-and-others-2202172-slash-2020

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Propertylover · 15/05/2024 09:31

@SidewaysOtter that is what I thought. I also thought the judge got the arguments by the way he engaged. The question is does he agree with them.

GoodHeavens99 · 15/05/2024 10:09

Are we using the same Teams link as yesterday?

chilling19 · 15/05/2024 10:14

'R argues that there was already an investigation before, so KM as an agent of SW did not contribute in any way to the decisions of GCC.'

But, the previous investigation found no case to answer, so the witch hunt can be directly attributed to SWs 'trust you will do the right thing' does it not?

ickky · 15/05/2024 10:16

@GoodHeavens99 yes the same link

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chilling19 · 15/05/2024 10:18

Already in

GoodHeavens99 · 15/05/2024 10:18

chilling19 · 15/05/2024 10:18

Already in

Same.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 15/05/2024 10:18

Once more unto the waiting room, dear friends...

GoodHeavens99 · 15/05/2024 10:19

ickky · 15/05/2024 10:16

@GoodHeavens99 yes the same link

Thank you. The Judge confused me yesterday!

LipbalmOrKnickers · 15/05/2024 10:20

In now, looking hard at a crest on a wall.

GoodHeavens99 · 15/05/2024 10:20

LipbalmOrKnickers · 15/05/2024 10:18

Once more unto the waiting room, dear friends...

Is it half a day today?

LipbalmOrKnickers · 15/05/2024 10:22

Yes I think it was scheduled for a day and a half.

GoodHeavens99 · 15/05/2024 10:22

LipbalmOrKnickers · 15/05/2024 10:22

Yes I think it was scheduled for a day and a half.

Thank you.

GoodHeavens99 · 15/05/2024 10:25

The clerk is hardcore!

She'll have to 'throw them out' if the observer doesn't identify themselves.

ickky · 15/05/2024 10:27

I think she said banish earlier too. I was expecting some sort of ritual. 😂

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LipbalmOrKnickers · 15/05/2024 10:27

Kicking ass and taking (full) names!

LipbalmOrKnickers · 15/05/2024 10:27

ickky · 15/05/2024 10:27

I think she said banish earlier too. I was expecting some sort of ritual. 😂

😂

GoodHeavens99 · 15/05/2024 10:28

ickky · 15/05/2024 10:27

I think she said banish earlier too. I was expecting some sort of ritual. 😂

Game of Thrones-style!

GoodHeavens99 · 15/05/2024 10:29

ickky · 15/05/2024 10:27

I think she said banish earlier too. I was expecting some sort of ritual. 😂

She threw caution to the wind and opted for good old fashioned 'throw you out' the second time.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 15/05/2024 10:30

Having been forced to look at it for some time now, I have decided I too must have some sort of rotating bookshelf.

ickky · 15/05/2024 10:31

If only for the cats to spin on @LipbalmOrKnickers

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LipbalmOrKnickers · 15/05/2024 10:33

The fact that it's not for them would guarantee their full interest and wholehearted endorsement. If I bought a 'rotating cat tower' it would be roundly ignored.

ickky · 15/05/2024 10:34

LipbalmOrKnickers · 15/05/2024 10:33

The fact that it's not for them would guarantee their full interest and wholehearted endorsement. If I bought a 'rotating cat tower' it would be roundly ignored.

Obvs

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ickky · 15/05/2024 10:35

I think we have a Bindle in the building today too. 😀

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SinnerBoy · 15/05/2024 10:35

Emotional support mummy, emotional support solicitor, emotional support dog - how does he manage everyday life?

ickky · 15/05/2024 10:36

Actually don't think it is her. Must put my glasses on.

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