Allison Bailey v Stonewall - Employment Appeal Tribunal hearing Thread 19

[ickky]

Allison Bailey has tweeted her intention to appeal the Stonewall decision.

twitter.com/BluskyeAllison/status/1572133035335716865

The Tribunal started on 25th April, witness testimony concluded on the 26th May. Closing arguments for council was on the 20th June.

There was also live tweeting from

twitter.com/tribunaltweets

tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/allison-bailey-vs-stonewall-and-garden

Abbreviations:

AB: Allison Bailey, claimant
BC: Ben Cooper QC, barrister for AB
SW = Stonewall Equality Limited (respondent 1)
IO = Ijeoma Omambala QC, senior counsel - barrister for SW
RW = Robin White junior counsel to SW - assisting IO
GC = Garden Court Chambers Limited (respondent 2) (GCC )
AH = Andrew Hochhauser QC, senior counsel - barrister for GC
JR = Jane Russell junior counsel to GC - assisting AH
RM= Rajiv Menon QC & SH = Stephanie Harrison QC (jointly respondent 3 along with all members of GC except AB)
EJ = Employment Judge Goodman hearing the case
Panel = Judge Goodman, Mr M. Reuby and Ms Darmas

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4529887-Allison-Bailey-v-Stonewall-Employment-Tribunal-hearing?
Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4542466-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-2
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Thread 18 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4574654-allison-bailey-v-stonewall-employment-tribunal-hearing-thread-18

Allison Bailey - claimant (4-9, 11-13 May)

Witnesses for the claimant:

Dr Nicola Williams - Fair Play for Women (29 April)
Dr Judith Green - A Woman's Place (29 April)
Kate Barker - LGB Alliance (3 May)
Lisa-Marie Taylor - FiLiA (4 May)

Witnesses for the respondents:

Stephen Lue - barrister for GCC (3-4 May)
Zainab Al-Farabi - ex Stonewall (10 May)
Kirrin Medcalf - head of trans inclusion Stonewall (10 May)
Leslie Thomas - barrister at GCC (13 May)
Sanjay Sood Smith - Stonewall (16 May)
Shaan Knan - LGBT consortium - on STAG (16 May)
Rajiv Menon - joint head of chambers (16-17 May)
Maya Sikand - barrister at GCC (17-18 May)
Mia Hakl-Law - HR senior for GCC (18 May)
Judy Khan - barrister at GCC (19-20 May)
Charlie Tennent - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Luke Harvey - clerk at GCC (20 May)
Louise Hooper - Barrister at GCC (20 May)
David Renton - barrister at GCC (20 May, 25 May)
Marc Willers - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Stephen Clark - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Liz Davies - Barrister at GCC (23 May)
Cathryn McGahey - Bar Council Ethics Committee's VC (24 May)
Tom Wainwright - Barrister at GCC (24 May)
Colin Cook - Head clerk at GCC (24 May)
David de Menezes - GCC, Head of Marketing (25 May)
Kathryn Cronin - barrister at GCC (25 May)
Michelle Brewer - barrister at GCC at time, now left and a judge (26 May)
Stephanie Harrison - joint head of chambers (26 May)

Closing arguments for AB, GCC, and SW (20 June)

Allison Bailey's Witness Statement

allisonbailey.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Witness-Statement-of-Allison-Bailey.pdf
Supplementary Statement
allisonbailey.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/C-Supplementary-Witness-Statement.pdf
Closing Statement
allisonbailey.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/CLOSING-SUBMISSIONS-FINAL.pdf

The Reserved Judgement (forth one down)

www.gov.uk/employment-tribunal-decisions/ms-a-bailey-v-stonewall-equality-ltd-and-others-2202172-slash-2020

At the time there was suspicion it may have been some sort of legal handler? Whoever it was, they were off like Usain Bolt at the thought of appearing on camera.

BC “This is all new information” 🤣🤣🤣

All very bloody fishy.

And it ended up being only the person on IO's left turning the pages on the bundle.

Me too. BC's bit was quite dry but at least i broadly understood what he was saying

EJ: All of them?

Which I hear in the voice of Lady Bracknell exclaiming about a handbag.

i missed the KM part of Allisons original hearing, to my regret.

It was absolutely hilarious. I was cringing inside out for them all.

It was bizarre @MyLadyDisdainlsYetLiving

The judge from the original ET was a legend. Her well timed sighs belied her poker face.

Trying to infer from the Judge's interjections which way it's going. This intervention sounds quite positive. Saying Stonewall's barrier has an uphill task.

I loved her.

Martin Reuby was excellent, as well.

Judge Goodman has been the best by far, in all the ET's I have watched.

Definitely. 👍🏻

She was brilliant. As were the cameos by her cat!

I don't think the judge is with her on her arguments. But of course, they are not going to give anything away. But he does seem to be asking a lot of questions.

I'd forgotten Martin Reuby! You're right he was fantastic. Down to earth and laser-focused.

@ickky I agree about running the ET but Judge Young’s judgement was so thorough.

Never have so many academics been collectively told they lack rigour😂.

Me too! Trying to work as well!!
What is STAG? could not find in abbreviations.

And, why oh why does ANY adult engaged in full time paid employment require a solicitor, tech support person, support animal, support person and their bloody mum to answer a few questions?

I always suspected the support person was Nancy Kelley, who would have been KM’s boss at the time. It’s just a hunch based on how quickly they left when they had to appear on screen

Was it Stonewall Trans Action Group?

Yep.

Thanks for STAG explanation makes it much clearer.

It's a dim and distant memory but from what I recall there was a lot of back and forth about rallying posts made on the STAG forum, again trying to disassociate what was posted there from Stonewall proper.

It felt like they were up to no good, quite frankly.

All the cloak and dagger behaviour, and thinking BC and EJG would just roll over and let them have their own way.
As people usually do.

EJ Young grew on me during Jo’s hearing - the pronouns enquiry at the start and continual faffing around scheduling may have been due to her relative inexperience in presiding over a hearing, but she appeared to be spot on in catching the applicable points of law during evidence, by her questions to the witnesses.

I’d agree that EJ Goodman had a handle on both the running of the court and the legal arguments, and maybe that’s due to her greater experience. That case also benefited (for the observers) by being online and so nearly everyone spoke directly into the camera. We all got the benefit of the Ben Cooper hard stare.

IO: We need to fit them all in
EJ: all of them?
IO: yes KM, his mother, his support person and his support dog
BC: this is all new information

😁