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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bette Midler

240 replies

FireFlyBoogaloo · 04/07/2022 17:31

Just posted on Twitter. The usual suspects are all over the replies, obviously, so give her some support if you can—but there's a surprising amount of balance. Seems to me that the scales have finally started to tip.

It was always going to be sunlight.

---WOMEN OF THE WORLD! We are being stripped of our rights over our bodies, our lives and even of our name! They don’t call us “women” anymore; they call us “birthing people” or “menstruators”, and even “people with vaginas”!
Don’t let them erase you! Every human on earth owes you!---

Bette Midler
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BootsAndRoots · 04/07/2022 20:44

The year is 2022, and people are angry over the statement "women give birth".

MrsTerryPratchett · 04/07/2022 20:44

I bloody love Macy Gray. I Try is on rotation right now!

PearlClutch · 04/07/2022 20:45

'Bette' trending at #7 has 12.9k tweets.

This is big news. Gay icon, leftwing, hugely famous, 2 million followers ... hold on tight, wims, I think the US is waking up ...

EdinburghFeminist · 04/07/2022 20:50

Are we able to start a GC playlist yet??

WarriorN · 04/07/2022 20:51

This is fun! Go Hadders!

Bette Midler
PearlClutch · 04/07/2022 20:51

Just waiting for Joan Jett.

WarriorN · 04/07/2022 20:52

I think I'll watch beaches tomorrow from my covid sick bed.

WeeBisom · 04/07/2022 20:52

While this is great, I'm still shaking my head at the fact that it's apparently controversial to say that it's erasure to call women 'menstruators' and 'birthing people'. Women really are expected to just shut up and accept any old shit, aren't they? There's such outrage at women expressing upset at being called names they don't want to be called...apparently it's not 'inclusive' or 'kind'.

samsalmon · 04/07/2022 20:53

Terfin’ USA 👍

WarriorN · 04/07/2022 20:53

Oh I missed this!

Michael random says: I wasn’t explaining menstruation, but I was trying to discuss language

Hadley: No, you were telling Bette Midler that you - Michael - know better than her about who menstruates. Have a look at yourself, take a deep breath, then go watch Beaches

Calyx72 · 04/07/2022 20:54

samsalmon · 04/07/2022 20:53

Terfin’ USA 👍

Brilliant Grin

TheGoogleMum · 04/07/2022 20:58

Pleased that these 2 wonderful ladies can see what's happening and are willing to speak the truth

achillestoes · 04/07/2022 20:59

Imagine being in Bette Midler’s mentions trying to tell her about womaning.

For shame, people.

MangyInseam · 04/07/2022 21:02

The "inclusive" thing is interesting. Because if you used the same logic for everything, the result would be completely bonkers.

What should be obvious is that inclusivity is a positive value in some cases, but not always, and you need to look at the justifications or argument or situation to decide which applies in a particular instance.

I really wonder if part of the reasons so many people struggle with this is that they are learning, from the wider culture, from school, that inclusivity functions as a universal principle? I've seen a ton of mission statements or vision statements for example that list inclusivity as one of their moving principles. Which is actually bollocks 99% of the time, they may try and include everyone within a certain group but they still draw lines that relate to their function.

DialSquare · 04/07/2022 21:04

It's got 37k likes now. More and more people are saying no to this ideology.

123Callie · 04/07/2022 21:08

People are realising that the attacks on women’s rights, whether from the TRAs or the anti abortionists, all have the same root: misogyny.

Women have clearly got too big for their boots recently and the men need to beat them back down one way or another.

Vargas · 04/07/2022 21:08

Brilliant!! Love her, hope she doesn't back down. Hopefully like JKR she's too big to fail...

And Macy Gray - whoop! Spotify here I come.

Lola4321 · 04/07/2022 21:16

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Acqua · 04/07/2022 21:23

Just subscribed to Macy Gray's Youtube Channel. The only way I know how to say thank you :-) 👏

Acqua · 04/07/2022 21:25

...and subscribed to Bette Midler's Youtube Channel. Who knew she had one?!

Arnaquer · 04/07/2022 21:27

I let out a little cheer when I read it and also Hadley Freeman's pithy retort to the mansplaining

Thelikelylass · 04/07/2022 21:31

wow! yesterday I had my friends round for drinks. I played Bette Midler AND Macy Gray on my apple play, not be accident but by choice.
Bette Midler has a HUGE gay following so it will be interesting to see how this pans out.
She is fabulous live by the way, and a fearless comedienne so doubt she has stumbled into this.

DoubleYouOhEmAyEn · 04/07/2022 21:31

Love Macy. So glad she's out & proud as GC. Bette's a legend. Rise up!

WhiskersPete · 04/07/2022 21:31

Yes to Hadley Freeman's reply too!

NellesVilla · 04/07/2022 21:35

So good to see an icon like Bette speak sense and shine a light on all the recent ridiculousness. Hopefully a new start.

Go roar, Brilliant Bette and Marvellous Macy!!